Right - I forgot that at this time the highway and city stacks were different. I still go back to Musk's statement that he hadn't downloaded the FSD software. I assume that Tesla's records and Elon musk are correct in that.
The common usage of "AP" is Autosteer and TACC. you see that all the time around here, too.
It's hard to say here - it looks like there may have been some water/mud in the ditch (look behind the car.)
Yeah, this incorrect usage is common and always leads to questions to flesh out the intended meaning.
I think plenty of people know what they're talking about, myself included. It's not unlike a 'charger.' Technically, what people refer to as a 'charger' is the EVSE and the actual charger is in the car but common people commonly refer to EVSE as a charger, so much so that using EVSE actually become confusing.
The problem is people incorrectly say "I thought Autopilot was on but only TACC was on." TACC being a feature of Autopilot makes this statement incorrect. Autopilot is engaged if any of its features are engaged. Just like saying "I installed the Tesla Wall Charger" is incorrect. It's correct name is Wall Connector.
It's technically incorrect if you go by the strict technical definition, but not incorrect if you go by the colloquial definition. Language tends to be defined by colloquial use. As long as people understand, in context, it typically doesn't matter.
And you're making the same mistake many people here make. You're getting caught up on semantics and forgetting that the point of language is communication. When I say "charger" people know what I mean. When I way "EVSE" most people don't have a clue. If you're technically correct and can't communicate then you're still failed.
Speaking in that manner doesn't make it correct.
I would guess Tesla disagrees with certain SGO aspects that result in confusion. For example, there was a Gainesville, FL accident that Tesla knew Autopilot wasn't even equipped on the 2015 vehicle, but it seems like Tesla was required to report it because media speculated Autopilot was involved. In fact, of the 2373 rows in the NHTSA SGO Level 2 ADAS Incident Report Data through January 2024, all 62 of the "Source - Media" = "Y"(es) entries are for Tesla. This then has a bad incentive loop of media speculating any Tesla accident might involve Autopilot to inflate the number of SGO reports to then allow media to write about how Tesla Autopilot must be unsafe with so many "official" NHTSA reports resulting in confusion that Autopilot must have been activated because of the report when it's actually only reflecting that Media speculated in the first place.
And speaking 'correctly' in a way no one understands or that leads to confusion is pointless. Again, I'd rather communicate than be a grammatical ideologue. If you're more content with miscommunication than be my guest.
Sure. Small price to pay though. Don’t want to make it difficult to make reports.
I would much prefer people think AP is unsafe than safe!
One is understanding when another uses the word Autosteer while referring to one feature of Autopilot. The other feature of basic Autopilot is Traffic Aware Cruise Control. It's not difficult, don't even gotta read the manual. Pass on the correct terminology to others my mouth.
Trust but verify.
There's somehow this idea out there among the masses that if Tesla driver assist software doesn't account for the most profoundly stupid drivers, it should not be released at all.
Assuming they were clean, how would an investigator determine braking, coasting or acceleration, beyond something like gravel spray that I mentioned above?
I thought this was a recent accident, and the possible reason immediately came to mind.
By “rolling tire marks,” they mean the tires continuing to spin after impact. The rotating assembly of motor, half shafts and wheels has a lot of inertia, causing them to continue spinning for a few revolutions after impact - a brief burnout. This combined with a lack of tire marks from braking/ABS is an indicator that the driver didn’t apply the brakes at all.
