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NigelM said:You are expected to maintain common courtesy with everyone, please do so.
NigelM
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It is not a problem that affects me.
No. RCW 46.08.185 is effective from July 28, 2013. A short time after that on September 17, 2013 there was discussion about the station here. Most likely this means when Tesla and the host negotiated a deal and signed an agreement, the law didn't exist. But of course the law overrides whatever is in that agreement. So now Tesla should either negotiate a new deal with the host or move the station elsewhere. They should also pick better locations.
Good.
Teo, I was asking you to stay polite and did it in a PM so as not to call you out publicly. That's not misuse of power and just for the record here's the full text:
So close yet so far...There is no reason for arguments. The language is clear....
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcW/supdefault.aspx?cite=46.08.185 said:(3) For purposes of this section, "electric vehicle charging station" means a public or private parking space that is served by charging equipment that has as its primary purpose the transfer of electric energy to a battery or other energy storage device in an electric vehicle.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcW/supdefault.aspx?cite=46.08.185 said:(3) For purposes of this section, "electric vehicle charging station" means a public or private parking space that is served by charging equipment that has as its primary purpose the transfer of electric energy to a battery or other energy storage device in an electric vehicle.
If they are not the same, how are they different?modified said:(3) For purposes of this section, "electric vehicle charging station" means a public or private parking space that is served by charging equipment.
The language in that website does not address the definition of an electric vehicle charging station nor who gets to designate a spot as one. All it does is establish uniform signage for spots that ARE designated as an electric vehicle charging station.There is no reason for arguments. The language is clear.
Source: Washington State Department of Transportation website: Washington state law (RCW 46.08.185)
The title of that file is: Unofficial Guidelines for Implementing Washington State’s SB 5849 which provides for a $124.00 fine for parking a vehicle in a public or publically accessible private EV charging station space.The same content is also available in Jeff Finn's PDF file.
There are people in this topic who think Tesla is trying to prevent ICE parking in Ellensburg. That couldn't be further from the truth.
dsm363,
Obviously I'm not going to call the hotel because that wouldn't be right but I'm glad you couldn't resist to talk to them. It is always good to have more information which is why I wrote the phone numbers of the hotel a few messages earlier. If those charging spaces are so insignificant then hopefully they will agree to put those no parking signs or road cones to two of the stalls so all five don't get ICED. I have no fixation on the issue. In message #34 I explained why I became interested in this topic.
Wow, thanks for doing the call. It seems this really isn't that big of a deal after seeing the response by Tesla and the hotel, but the way Teo put it made it seem like this was some sort of big crisis for Tesla.This response had me the most confused. Multiple posts about alerting websites and the media of this huge problem and hours of research into local regulations but you obviously won't make one phone call and talk to the actual hotel that has the parking? I had a nice 5min conversation and explained the situation so the manager who talks with Tesla will look into it. Maybe they simply didn't know about the law and Tesla didn't do enough research either.
You do seem preoccupied with assumed problems that don't happen to you.