Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2016

[Johan]

Johan, it has nothing to do with 'speaking a potential negative word about Tesla ever', so let's not start down that road. You're making up stories now and you've been around the forum to know that's typically not appreciated, especially not on the investment threads.

Whatever.

 

[Krugerrand]

Whatever.

So, I'll assume you're just being difficult and dismissive because you're hung over. :wink:

 

[Johan]

So, I'll assume you're just being difficult and dismissive because you're hung over. :wink:

Don't assume things.

 

[theschnell]

Actually in reality it usually it quite simple. People like to make it more complicated than it usually is.

I should have used the word "rarely" instead of "never". We'll see if it's one of the three things he mentioned or not when the final diagnosis comes out, assuming they have enough data pre-fire to make a diagnosis. Knowing Tesla, they probably have the data.

 

[jesselivenomore]

How do you know that with certainty???? The car may have hit something before pulling into the supercharger. Maybe it's an older model car and he never got the titanium shield retro-fit. Once again, I agree that your conclusion is logical, but certainty is a little far-fetched.

Well that is a far fetched scenario. But fine, not certainty, just high probability.

And if it really was caused by road debris then this is really a non-issue, since that problem has already been resolved and impacts zero new Teslas.

 

[sub]

This would be considered less than 1 in 100,000 no? It would be 1 in 100's of thousands if not a million plus supercharges. I do agree let's wait for hard facts before we get too concerned, unfortunately the market may not do that on Monday.

 

[theschnell]

This is the car in quesion: Kjøretøyopplysninger | Statens vegvesen

Brown S85 registered for the first time March 12th 2014. Probably produced sometime in January or Fabruary. VIN: 5YJSA2H11EFP25128

Ok, so there is a possibility its pre-shield and never retrofitted, since Tesla begin adding shields after 3/28/2014.

Tesla Adds Titanium Underbody Shield and Aluminum Deflector Plates to Model S | Tesla Motors

 

[jesselivenomore]

This would be considered less than 1 in 100,000 no? It would be 1 in 100's of thousands if not a million plus supercharges. I do agree let's wait for hard facts before we get too concerned, unfortunately the market may not do that on Monday.

Yes, my mistake. It would be 1 in millions of charges. Which means an onboard issue is highly unlikely.

 

[Krugerrand]

Don't assume things.

Right. Exactly. So glad you understand the point I was making earlier to you.

 

[Zaxxon]

New year, same ole Krugerrand.

Hopefully Tesla comments on this one. At least there are three non-trading days to let this play out.

 

[Krugerrand]

New year, same ole Krugerrand.

Right back at you, baby! All the best to you and yours in the new year.

 

[jesselivenomore]

I think TSLA investors may be a little sensitive about anything "fire" related since they've been burned by the 2013 incidents, hence the initial reaction on here to this latest news. But recall, on Oct 1, 2013 when the first road fire was reported, after an initial selloff from the all time high of 193 at the time, it recovered to 189 two weeks later. In other words, the market shrugged it off after the initial reaction. The much larger declines that followed only ensued after multiple fires reoccurred, which ignited fears that it was a widespread problem which represents existential risk to the company.

To equate what happened then(after multiple fires) to this 1 in a million charging fire which may or may not even be a result of charging or anything Tesla related is a mistake.

In that light, I am actually quite disappointed that the markets are not open today, as a reactionary buying opportunity may have been missed.

 

[AWDtsla]

This is the car in quesion: Kjøretøyopplysninger | Statens vegvesen

Brown S85 registered for the first time March 12th 2014. Probably produced sometime in January or Fabruary. VIN: 5YJSA2H11EFP25128

"First registered on own 12/30/2015"

It's been on the road for 2 days???

 

[Stretch2727]

I think TSLA investors may be a little sensitive about anything "fire" related since they've been burned by the 2013 incidents, hence the initial reaction on here to this latest news. But recall, on Oct 1, 2013 when the first road fire was reported, after an initial selloff from the all time high of 193 at the time, it recovered to 189 two weeks later. In other words, the market shrugged it off after the initial reaction. The much larger declines that followed only ensued after multiple fires reoccurred, which ignited fears that it was a widespread problem which represents existential risk to the company.

To equate what happened then(after multiple fires) to this 1 in a million charging fire which may or may not even be a result of charging or anything Tesla related is a mistake.


In that light, I am actually quite disappointed that the markets are not open today, as a reactionary buying opportunity may have been missed.

Can't agree more. This will be a short term issue.

At the same time, hopefully they find what caused the fire so the car and/or charger can be improved. At the power levels during supercharging if anything goes wrong you will generate a lot of heat very quickly.

 

[SebastianR]

"First registered on own 12/30/2015"

It's been on the road for 2 days???

It has been first registered in Norway on 12.03.2014
It has a new owner for 2 days.

 

[Yggdrasill]

"First registered on own 12/30/2015"

It's been on the road for 2 days???

It was registered on a new owner two days ago, while it's had one or more previous owners. So, there is one sad panda out there somewhere.

 

[ev-enthusiast]

It has been first registered in Norway on 12.03.2014
It has a new owner for 2 days.

Personally I am very glad that no one was injured during this incident.
I feel sorry for the second owner of the car.
Do we have a statement from the owner of the car, maybe in the press?
Any information out from the police or Tesla Motors?

 

[Discoducky]

It has been first registered in Norway on 12.03.2014
It has a new owner for 2 days.

Well that is interesting since the immolation appears to have started in the cabin vs the battery. Owner might have left something inside that caught fire.

Regardless, will be interesting to see the market and Tesla corporate reaction (if any). I've been saving some money to buy on a low.

 

[jesselivenomore]

It has been first registered in Norway on 12.03.2014
It has a new owner for 2 days.

So let me get this straight. 3 days before huge quarterly delivery numbers are set to be reported which will materially affect share price, someone buys an used Model S and it immediately sets on fire. Hm.

Does the new owner's name by chance rhyme with "Kim Jangos"?

 

[ev-enthusiast]

It was registered on a new owner two days ago, while it's had one or more previous owners. So, there is one sad panda out there somewhere.

Could very well be a sad panda in deed.
Could be a crazy short spending some money for a headline as well.
Only time will tell.
Very curious about how this pans out.

(BTW happy new year to everyone.)