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NRMA are already installing a DCFC under the National Electric Vehicle Charging Network anyway - https://minister.dcceew.gov.au/bowe...ehicle-charging-network-connect-all-australiaThe RAA installing a 32amp single phase type 2 in Penong and Nullarbor when a 32amp 3 phase already exists is not going to provide anything but negative publicity-
The EV charging bottleneck soon to arrive on the Nullarbor
A massive bottleneck is looming for EV drivers looking to cross the Nullarbor.thedriven.io
True.NRMA are already installing a DCFC under the National Electric Vehicle Charging Network anyway - https://minister.dcceew.gov.au/bowe...ehicle-charging-network-connect-all-australia
- Coorabie SA
- Border Village SA
- Nullarbor SA
Not to mention some other duplication planned at Ceduna, Wudinna etc (being at least the RAA Charge stations + the NRMA National Electric Vehicle Charging Network)
Then whats the point of the RAA installing a 32amp single phase outlet then? I guess it can only be marketing.NRMA are already installing a DCFC under the National Electric Vehicle Charging Network anyway - https://minister.dcceew.gov.au/bowe...ehicle-charging-network-connect-all-australia
- Coorabie SA
- Border Village SA
- Nullarbor SA
Not to mention some other duplication planned at Ceduna, Wudinna etc (being at least the RAA Charge stations + the NRMA National Electric Vehicle Charging Network)
Then whats the point of the RAA installing a 32amp single phase outlet then?
Fair enough at Ceduna Foreshore Hotel overlooking Murat Bay, not so enjoyable at other locations.For when you’re having a boozy 3-hour lunch with the locals?
Here is the result of my communications with Onkaparinga council which was facilitated through my local elected Cr who was more than helpful with my enquiry.Onkaparinga Council has just granted the RAA a 6 year lease to a site at Seaford Central Shopping Center. I read the minutes of the meeting at the time and if I remember correctly, they were quite professional. They were focused on the lease, not the politics of EVs.
The problem I see is the likes of Jolt, Evie are not interested. For Jolt they seem to have a footprint on the Adelaide Plains with Marion being about the far South. For Jolt, I see potential for something at say Port Noarlunga. There is a carpark between Becks Bakery and Grey St - They could face advertising signs at Grey Street - a reasonably high traffic area. Have you contacted Jolt and asked why there is nothing out South?
When the SA government put out tenders for the SA Gov Network, I understood very few participants in the DCFC space was interested. They ended up having to broker a deal with the RAA. It wasn't the RAA that put in a tender.
Keep up the good fight!I might just ask if there are any requirements for new or renovations of petrol stations to provide charging infrastructure if that is what is anticipated and can be influenced by council.
Wish me luck!
Sing out if you do! At this rate i could probably look into getting an ABN, a mains power upgrade and running my own charging station haha.Keep up the good fight!
I'm planning on a trip down to the Barossa and Mclaren Vale mid next year, so will be good to have some charging options!
“It is anticipated that EV charging infrastructure will become a service provided for by petrol stations.”
EVs allow us to approach things completely differently, and so we should. But that seems beyond some people.
Well written , thank you very much.When my local Council consulted on its EV strategy last year, one of the things it suggested was exactly that. In my submission, I pointed out that suburban petrol stations are often very unpleasant places to spend any time at - dirty, smelly, no amenity, and not near useful things that an EV driver could do while charging.
Who wants to sit in their car for 30 minutes watching other people fill up on dinosaur juice? Who wants to replicate the “service station experience“ as if that’s the right answer?
The mindset that because EVs are cars and there’s an existing place cars go to to refuel, so that’s where EV chargers should go, exemplifies the rigid thinking that infects this space. People who don’t drive EVs just don’t “get it”.
I think Evie is on the right track targeting suburban shopping centres instead. That makes a lot of sense to me (and something we have made extensive use of over the past 6 weeks with no garage).
Highway service centres are a different scenario, as there usually is amenity there and people often stop for 20-30 mins to grab a bite or have a short break. It makes sense and integrates with people’s existing routines.
EVs allow us to approach things completely differently, and so we should. But that seems beyond some people.
Evie is on my list to contact and it will be interesting to hear their feedback as we have several large shopping centres in this council area which only one has been used as an example to allow a single RAA station with 2 CCS plugs (Seaford).
Evie is on my list to contact and it will be interesting to hear their feedback as we have several large shopping centres in this council area which only one has been used as an example to allow a single RAA station with 2 CCS plugs (Seaford). This site construction is underway according to PlugShare, I’ll go for a drive and have a look to see how far along it is.
The other RAA sites seem to be on private land (?) but would have had to have council building approval?
Most EV charger installs do not require a DA. If they are adding additional car spaces it may trigger a DA and if they are adding solar I think it might also trigger a DA.
The agreement between RAA & Council is from pages 305-321The formalisation for the approval process with the RAA involves Council as the licensor signing an agreement with RAA Innovation Pty Ltd to become a licensee of the area. Council Officers have
identified that the area suggested is Crown Land dedicated to Council and Council as such has sought approval from Crown Land for the licencing of the charging station location. This location allows the charging station to be connected directly into the high voltage transformer located between the Kiosk and School Carparks.
The Licence Agreement provides RAA;
- an exclusive use 24 hours a day 7 days a week to use the site for the purpose of EV Charging
- undertake any required works
- provision to renew agreement for another term
- public liability of $20 million
- provision for security camera installation
- installation of a market facing metre with NMI and pay all electricity costs
The Licence Agreement provides that Council will;
- keep the area free from litter and rubbish
- notify if more than half of the carparking area is ever restricted
- notify if intending to install an EV charger near this location
The term of the agreement is to expire on 31 May 2029, with the option of 2 x additional 5-year terms (upon mutual agreement).
The RAA representatives require the agreement to be signed by June 30, 2023, to ensure that the project can be included in the current round of roll outs.
It would be interesting to know where in Noarlunga the site was proposed, and whether it was council or private land. As we know the Council offices are in Noarlunga centre in the same vicinity. Aside from the shopping centre itself there are other big box shops nearby (Bunnings, officeworks, Harvery Norman, Car parts stores etc) and so many more over at Seaman drive, all within walking distance.Quite a number of years ago EVie proposed a charger in Noarlunga.
At the time the list was:
Anyone notice anything missing?
- Tailem Bend - Now Complete (Tailem Bend – HA002 - 8786 Princes Highway Tailem Bend 5260)
- Noarlunga
- Adelaide Hills - Now Complete (Adelaide Hills – HA001, 399 Mount Barker Rd Bridgewater 5155)
- Bolivar - Now Complete (Paralowie Village Shopping Centre – HA005, 9 Liberator Dr Paralowie 5108)