T3slafan2500
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No, I don't think that there is a way to see your place in line for the Model X.Do the model X reservation numbers follow a sequential order similar to cybertruck reservation numbers so you can find your place in order line?
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No, I don't think that there is a way to see your place in line for the Model X.Do the model X reservation numbers follow a sequential order similar to cybertruck reservation numbers so you can find your place in order line?
Your place in line plays a tiny little role in how fast you'll get yours. It all depends on what's being made when (batches) and where things are headed (logistics).Do the model X reservation numbers follow a sequential order similar to cybertruck reservation numbers so you can find your place in order line?
Agreed. I was just wondering if there is a way to determine how many reservations there are since reservation number is how Cybertruck is tracked for preorder numbers. We are all assuming the backlog is a lot due to the extended delivery dates on new orders but X and S sales really dropped due to 3 & Y and they were down to one shift line before they paused. I'm wondering if the focus on 6 seats for the first few months is simply due to lower reservation numbers for 5/7 seats.Your place in line plays a tiny little role in how fast you'll get yours. It all depends on what's being made when (batches) and where things are headed (logistics).
Nah. From what I've read (and it's all opinions based on some data) is that they have to reach a certain amount of production to have a positive margin. Considering they are JUST starting out, it makes sense to have the highest margin configuration be made first to offset that amount some. Again, this is just a guess.Agreed. I was just wondering if there is a way to determine how many reservations there are since reservation number is how Cybertruck is tracked for preorder numbers. We are all assuming the backlog is a lot due to the extended delivery dates on new orders but X and S sales really dropped due to 3 & Y and they were down to one shift line before they paused. I'm wondering if the focus on 6 seats for the first few months is simply due to lower reservation numbers for 5/7 seats.
Are you seriously trying to say demand doesn't in at least some way correlate to demand?@T3slafan2500 Prices are based on their projected costs and target margin at the anticipated time of production, not demand. Not that they can’t garner higher prices, this is what Elon and Zach have said.
Also, Elon has said the refreshed cars are *cheaper* to build now than the old S/X models. So the idea that it cost is the reason the price has gone up makes zero sense.@T3slafan2500 Prices are based on their projected costs and target margin at the anticipated time of production, not demand. Not that they can’t garner higher prices, this is what Elon and Zach have said.
I don’t think high inflation and chip shortages were foreseen when he said that.lso, Elon has said the refreshed cars are *cheaper* to build now than the old S/X models. So the idea that it cost is the reason the price has gone up makes zero sense.
He made that comment in the middle of the chip shortage in Q2 I believe so that isn't it. Also, the chip shortage will likely not be an issue a year from now. As far as inflation goes that is definitely a part of the equation but not all of it.I don’t think high inflation and chip shortages were foreseen when he said that.
Mine is coming with a 4680 and I like my snowball cones cherry/grape. Just keeping hope aliveIf it’s just because it’s nice to fantasize about it (like winning the lottery) then batting about the idea of 4680s in the S/X is fun. But anyone who thinks there’s a snowball’s chance in Hell of 4680s showing up in these vehicles anytime soon is deluding themselves.
He said I'd be looking at January most likely.Did you happen to ask if Plaid is expected this year?
January if you didn’t switch, or January even if you switched?He said I'd be looking at January most likely.
If I didn’t switchJanuary if you didn’t switch, or January even if you switched?
On this note...Also, Elon has said the refreshed cars are *cheaper* to build now than the old S/X models. So the idea that it cost is the reason the price has gone up makes zero sense.
List some of the extra features/upgrades/modifications you expected to justify the premium. Battery range aside.On this note...
This may be a very controversial opinion but personally I was expecting a lot more out of the Model S/X refresh and was quite frankly disappointed to see theupgradesmodifications they made.
Obviously everyone in this forum is bias - we can spot the difference between a $44k M3 and a $105k MX quite literally from a mile away. But I still feel as if the premium upgrades you get for an X over a 3 is not exactly a $61,000.00 difference. Take the infotainment system for instance. In my 2017 X the vertical screen built into the dashboard had an integrated premium feel. Even before the S/X refresh my opinion of the model 3 was something along the lines of "it looks like they just took a suction-cup mount iPad and put it on the dashboard". To the untrained eye (emphasis on "untrained") the only aesthetic difference between the interior of the Model 3 and Model S is the yoke and instrument-cluster screen.
I feel with the refresh (again, in my opinion) Tesla is treading that very fine line between minimalism/aesthetic and premium/luxury.
@T3slafan2500 as you stated, it is no surprise to me that the refresh is now cheaper to build then the previous generation.
Now given, I am not arguing for the purchase of a lesser Tesla. We are all in this forum because fortunately we are in a financial position to be able to afford the extra wants (not needs) of the X over the Y or other economy SUVs and those little bonus features add up to make this car the unicorn that it is. My point though - I am simply stating that in my opinion for a "refresh" this $6-figure car could have felt little more premium or luxurious compared to other cars in this pricepoint. But I am here as this is currently the most compelling EV/autonomous/SUV on the market. I just wish the refresh felt like an upgrade.
I am speaking purely aesthetic. If I put my grandma (the "untrained eye" I mentioned) in a Model 3 vs a model S she would be equally impressed with both cars.List some of the extra features/upgrades/modifications you expected to justify the premium. Battery range aside.
I personally thought the screen on the old S/X looked like garbage. I prefer the updated look. But we are all different and don’t expect everyone to like the same thing.I am speaking purely aesthetic. If I put my grandma (the "untrained eye" I mentioned) in a Model 3 vs a model S she would be equally impressed with both cars. (not a side by side comparison, just for instance if I bought one car over the other).
I think @studioloft has been pretty balanced in his comment here and I mainly agree with him. I’m new to this thread and have no desire to stoke controversy. I am no fanboy of what’s-his-name, nor am I by any means a hater. I placed an MX Plaid order yesterday for two main reasons. It was the only variant not to see a price increase (at least I think that’s the case) and it is the only Tesla production model that I have yet to own (I’m excluding the old Roadster which ain’t my jam).I am speaking purely aesthetic. If I put my grandma (the "untrained eye" I mentioned) in a Model 3 vs a model S she would be equally impressed with both cars.
(not a side by side comparison, just for instance if I bought one car over the other).
In my opinion the S/X should look more premium than the 3/Y for the price. My thought is that I was disappointed in the "refresh" that made the S/X look less unique and more like the 3/Y.