ICUDoc
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Thanks, Sabre Man. But I want more!Here's some testing done by DÆrik:
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Thanks, Sabre Man. But I want more!Here's some testing done by DÆrik:
Thanks, Sabre Man. But I want more!
OBX John (and other Raven owners)- have you noticed an improved efficiency in terms of kWh/mile?I could not be happier with my Raven Performance. It blows my 2017 100D away - no acceleration shudder, much smoother, and the seats seem to be a bit softer too. Can't say enough good things about the suspension. 345 miles of range is nice too!
OBX John (and other Raven owners)- have you noticed an improved efficiency in terms of kWh/mile?
Also- any details about the suspension feel? In particular- have you had the chance to chuck it around a few corners yet??
OBX John (and other Raven owners)- have you noticed an improved efficiency in terms of kWh/mile?
Also- any details about the suspension feel? In particular- have you had the chance to chuck it around a few corners yet??
Just took our first trip on our S Performance +L and OMG so much better. My 2017 S100D standard had a lifetime avg of 333 and on the same trip never did better than ~315OBX John (and other Raven owners)- have you noticed an improved efficiency in terms of kWh/mile?
Also- any details about the suspension feel? In particular- have you had the chance to chuck it around a few corners yet??
Wonderful. I’m about to upgrade from a 2017 s75D to a performance S +ludicrous so happy to hear its good.
But what makes HW3.0 99% better than HW2.0?
I have been vocal that HW2.0 is like a teenage driver in traffic and txting at the same time. More often than not braking was late and abrasive as if it looked up and said oh *sugar* I better stop.
HW3 acts as if it is a seasoned driver looking well down the road and anticipating traffic as you or I would and gently and purposefully slows down with no erratic behavior. Lane changes are also quicker and with confidence. Basically night and day difference.
I am hopeful that all those HW2 owners that pre-paid for FSD will have this experience once their FSD is installed.
This was just posted and also another pet peeve of mine on HW2. (Not mine bit exactly what I dealt with literally 30-50 times a day on my 100 mile commute):
Hard braking with TACC in stop-n-go traffic
I don’t experience that weird brake noise. My AP functions pretty smoothly most of the time, and only brakes hard sometimes when people cut in front of me. Phantom braking is very rare and is never like a panic slam on the brakes, but more like regen braking. Maybe V9 breaks AP too. I’m still on V8.I have been vocal that HW2.0 is like a teenage driver in traffic and txting at the same time. More often than not braking was late and abrasive as if it looked up and said oh *sugar* I better stop.
HW3 acts as if it is a seasoned driver looking well down the road and anticipating traffic as you or I would and gently and purposefully slows down with no erratic behavior. Lane changes are also quicker and with confidence. Basically night and day difference.
I am hopeful that all those HW2 owners that pre-paid for FSD will have this experience once their FSD is installed.
This was just posted and also another pet peeve of mine on HW2. (Not mine bit exactly what I dealt with literally 30-50 times a day on my 100 mile commute):
Hard braking with TACC in stop-n-go traffic
The cabin is quieter?Just returned from a weekend trip from the Bay Area to San Diego and back. Raven, Performance Ludicrous. Have done this trip in the past in a 2016 Model X 90D and a 2013 “classic” Model S P85. About 1000 miles round trip. Typical driving (80-85 on the 5 with passing sprints as needed)
Observations:
- energy consumption was remarkably good. 316 Wh/mi for the entire trip. For comparison, my 2013 Model S was more like 350 on these trips
- much less total time spent charging. I didn’t measure in minutes but you can feel the difference. Stops were intentional to take a break, not because I had to charge. And I did whatever I needed to do while charging and then continued my trip.
- low stress - ZERO range anxiety unlike my other two Tesla’s.
- handling is amazing both on an absolute basis and relative to my previous Tesla’s
- acceleration is just ... ludicrous
- the cabin is so quiet
- biohazard mode is NOT powerful enough to overcome the smell of cow off the 5
- I’m not a big autopilot user - I like to drive, along the lines of those stupid car commercials (Audi?) trying to diss Tesla FSD. That said, I did try both TACC and Autosteer. Seemed to work well but I didn’t use them much. (I don’t have FSD.)
Especially if you’re coming off an older Model S, the Raven upgrade is well worth it. (Plus, I’m with the people who don’t want the model 3 interior in their model s.)
The cabin is quieter?
Exactly. Same software as far as we know. Does hardware speed improve performance of same code? Maybe.I thought HW2.x and 3.0 were running the same networks still. How could they act differently? Placebo? I just drove a HW3.0 car and it felt just like the last HW2.0 I drove.
Exactly. Same software as far as we know. Does hardware speed improve performance of same code? Maybe.
Tell that to the people who can no longer buy a Model S with a sunroof
I would not trade my 2018 Model S with a sunroof for a 2019 Raven without a sunroof. I also love the silver exterior of my car and that's another option you can no longer order.
In general things improve but not all changes are positive. I feel this is a great time to buy a Model S because the design has been around for a while and the Model S they are selling now is the best more reliable Model S they have created.
I just hope the sunroof returns with the interior refresh.
Sun roof could happen. I saw this job listing for the new California plant.Tell that to the people who can no longer buy a Model S with a sunroof
I would not trade my 2018 Model S with a sunroof for a 2019 Raven without a sunroof. I also love the silver exterior of my car and that's another option you can no longer order.
In general things improve but not all changes are positive. I feel this is a great time to buy a Model S because the design has been around for a while and the Model S they are selling now is the best more reliable Model S they have created.
I just hope the sunroof returns with the interior refresh.
So excited to hear this. My Raven Model X w/ludicrous is arriving on Monday. After driving 2 different Model S - most recent one a 2015 before full self driving, I am incredibly excited for the new ride!Just returned from a weekend trip from the Bay Area to San Diego and back. Raven, Performance Ludicrous. Have done this trip in the past in a 2016 Model X 90D and a 2013 “classic” Model S P85. About 1000 miles round trip. Typical driving (80-85 on the 5 with passing sprints as needed)
Observations:
- energy consumption was remarkably good. 316 Wh/mi for the entire trip. For comparison, my 2013 Model S was more like 350 on these trips
- much less total time spent charging. I didn’t measure in minutes but you can feel the difference. Stops were intentional to take a break, not because I had to charge. And I did whatever I needed to do while charging and then continued my trip.
- low stress - ZERO range anxiety unlike my other two Tesla’s.
- handling is amazing both on an absolute basis and relative to my previous Tesla’s
- acceleration is just ... ludicrous
- the cabin is so quiet
- biohazard mode is NOT powerful enough to overcome the smell of cow off the 5
- I’m not a big autopilot user - I like to drive, along the lines of those stupid car commercials (Audi?) trying to diss Tesla FSD. That said, I did try both TACC and Autosteer. Seemed to work well but I didn’t use them much. (I don’t have FSD.)
Especially if you’re coming off an older Model S, the Raven upgrade is well worth it. (Plus, I’m with the people who don’t want the model 3 interior in their model s.)
Just returned from a weekend trip from the Bay Area to San Diego and back. Raven, Performance Ludicrous. Have done this trip in the past in a 2016 Model X 90D and a 2013 “classic” Model S P85. About 1000 miles round trip. Typical driving (80-85 on the 5 with passing sprints as needed)
Observations:
- energy consumption was remarkably good. 316 Wh/mi for the entire trip. For comparison, my 2013 Model S was more like 350 on these trips
- much less total time spent charging. I didn’t measure in minutes but you can feel the difference. Stops were intentional to take a break, not because I had to charge. And I did whatever I needed to do while charging and then continued my trip.
- low stress - ZERO range anxiety unlike my other two Tesla’s.
- handling is amazing both on an absolute basis and relative to my previous Tesla’s
- acceleration is just ... ludicrous
- the cabin is so quiet
- biohazard mode is NOT powerful enough to overcome the smell of cow off the 5
- I’m not a big autopilot user - I like to drive, along the lines of those stupid car commercials (Audi?) trying to diss Tesla FSD. That said, I did try both TACC and Autosteer. Seemed to work well but I didn’t use them much. (I don’t have FSD.)
Especially if you’re coming off an older Model S, the Raven upgrade is well worth it. (Plus, I’m with the people who don’t want the model 3 interior in their model s.)