Wiki Model S Delivery Update

[dsm363]

I'm with you and I've always been a "more power is better" car guy, but I think we're approaching a physical boundary, mostly due to the traction limitations of AWD. The 1200HP/1400TQ Sapphire is not really faster. The 0-60 run in 1,020HP Plaid is a medical event now for a lot of people. Drag racers will always look for the next tenth, but it's hard to make the case for much more than 1,000 HP in street cars.

I went from a P85 to 2023 long range Model S. New car is over a second quicker to 60mph. A 3.1 second car used to be supercar territory so for a daily commuter is more than quick enough for me at least.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Maybe good news. Just got this text. Let's see if I can get out of this '23 by not scheduling delivery.
"Tesla Delivery: Reminder, If delivery is not scheduled by tomorrow, this vehicle will automatically be released. "

 

[flyingfish28]

Remind me: where is the speedometer on this pic? Yes, right. Hiden behind the steering wheel.

Stupid design, arrogant and blatantly incompetent product mangement. Catastrophic leadership... Why do I have to look for an aftermarket steering wheel when buying a 100 K car. And why do I have to pay for being a guinea pig when "they" could have done a basic survey to find out that the new idea is indeed dumb and no thank you, let's keep the stalks???

 

[Grumble]

You can use your own referral code. You will get the 3 months of fsd and 10,000 loyalty points. You can see the pending loyalty points in the app under history.

Of course, it looks like they removed anything of value from the loyalty points system, so the 10,000 points seem to be worthless right now. Previously you could get a wall connector or EAP, I think.

No soup for me

 

[dsm363]

Maybe good news. Just got this text. Let's see if I can get out of this '23 by not scheduling delivery.
"Tesla Delivery: Reminder, If delivery is not scheduled by tomorrow, this vehicle will automatically be released. "

You'd lose your reservation deposit, right?

 

[zoomer0056]

Stupid design

Yes, the Model S was designed with the yoke. Those wanting a wheel now have it with an instrument cluster designed for the yoke. I'll keep the yoke thank you very much.

 

[Grumble]

Yes, the Model S was designed with the yoke. Those wanting a wheel now have it with an instrument cluster designed for the yoke.

I've had to adjust my driving position and steering wheel position to make it work. I'm used to it now so it's not terrible. I would think if you're over 6'2" this is going to be a problem

 

[Yelobird]

Remind me: where is the speedometer on this pic? Yes, right. Hiden behind the steering wheel.

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Stupid design, arrogant and blatantly incompetent product mangement. Catastrophic leadership... Why do I have to look for an aftermarket steering wheel when buying a 100 K car. And why do I have to pay for being a guinea pig when "they" could have done a basic survey to find out that the new idea is indeed dumb and no thank you, let's keep the stalks???

Well, as that’s the Parked view the answer would be nowhere. Like all cars, you can raise lower seat, and steering wheel to accommodate your preference vs judging it on a random internet photo.

 

[dsm363]

I've had to adjust my driving position and steering wheel position to make it work. I'm used to it now so it's not terrible. I would think if you're over 6'2" this is going to be a problem

It is. And this wasn't an issue with the older Model S.

 

[teko]

It is. And this wasn't an issue with the older Model S.

The thing is, instrument cluster is all software skin, they should be changing the layout based on which steering wheel is installed. But no. We get goat fart door locking sounds

 

[dsm363]

Well, as that’s the Parked view the answer would be nowhere. Like all cars, you can raise lower seat, and steering wheel to accommodate your preference vs judging it on a random internet photo.

And that still doesn't work for some people. Again, a step backwards from older Model S for no perceivable gain. All for a yoke that isn't steer by wire.

And the speedometer is far off to the right and close the the steering wheel for me but I can still see it. Wasn't even a problem when it was right in the middle. They use far too much of the screen for the FSD animation. Even when not using FSD or Autopilot.

It's odd they are moving the horn back to the center of the steering wheel for the Model S, Model X, 3, and likely Y. Along with the Cybertruck since the current steering wheel/yoke is so popular.

 

[dsm363]

The thing is, instrument cluster is all software skin, they should be changing the layout based on which steering wheel is installed. But no. We get goat fart door locking sounds

Exactly. Round steering wheel should move more of the UI into the center well within view of even taller drivers. I can't see the headlight icons for example.

 

[flyingfish28]

Well, as that’s the Parked view the answer would be nowhere. Like all cars, you can raise lower seat, and steering wheel to accommodate your preference vs judging it on a random internet photo.

I took a Model S for a test drive. I am 182 cm (6 ft) tall and the only way to get a decent view of the speedometer resulted in poor seating comfort and ergonomy. The fact that this screenshot was from a parked car does not change the position of the speedometer which is always hidden.
And the crude fact remains: somebody should be fired for this.
Ah and maybe, just maybe, "they" could move or duplicate the speed indication towards the center of the screen as a workaround.

 

[dsm363]

I took a Model S for a test drive. I am 182 cm (6 ft) tall and the only way to get a decent view of the speedometer resulted in poor seating comfort and ergonomy. The fact that this screenshot was from a parked car does not change the position of the speedometer which is always hidden.
And the crude fact remains: somebody should be fired for this.
Ah and maybe, just maybe, "they" could move or duplicate the speed indication towards the center of the screen as a workaround.

Exactly. If I hold my hands at 10 and 2, my right hand covers the speed limit sign and part of the speedometer. They really only need to move things over an inch maybe to make it more useable. They are far too enamored with the fancy moving car FSD graphics. It’s nice but if you’re driving yourself, other data is more important.

 

[Grumble]

Exactly. If I hold my hands at 10 and 2, my right hand covers the speed limit sign and part of the speedometer. They really only need to move things over an inch maybe to make it more useable. They are far too enamored with the fancy moving car FSD graphics. It’s nice but if you’re driving yourself, other data is more important.

I'm 6' tall as well and this is my view. I believe the speedometer reading is where the H is (approx). Not ideal and some of the screen is definitely blocked but I've made it work for me.

 

[DBV1]

That is why I just don’t get round steering wheels with these newer digital displays. View is blocked. Does not matter if it is a Tesla, Lucid, BMW, Mercedes, etc it really ruins the whole experience. Would take the Yoke all day. The newer Lucid Gravity, at least as kind of a yoke and now you can see the digital drivers display.

 

[teko]

That is why I just don’t get round steering wheels with these newer digital displays. View is blocked. Does not matter if it is a Tesla, Lucid, BMW, Mercedes, etc it really ruins the whole experience. Would take the Yoke all day. The newer Lucid Gravity, at least as kind of a yoke and now you can see the digital drivers display.

I think long term plan from Tesla was steer-by-wire, but they jumped the shark with the yoke before that was implemented. Yoke with steer-by-wire would be fantastic.

 

[aerodyne]

That is why I just don’t get round steering wheels with these newer digital displays. View is blocked. Does not matter if it is a Tesla, Lucid, BMW, Mercedes, etc it really ruins the whole experience. Would take the Yoke all day. The newer Lucid Gravity, at least as kind of a yoke and now you can see the digital drivers display.

Well, here is a workaround. Granted, owners should not have to choose between a yoke that is a joke for parallel parking and a wheel that won't let you see the speedo.

Advantage is that SMT can display other info, like cell temp and max Regen and charging power.

 

[n2mb_racing]

I'm not sure why it's an issue now and it wasn't in the last generation model S. The screen is the same size. Did we just get used to seeing all of it with the yoke?

 

[SucreTease]

Like all cars, you can raise lower seat, and steering wheel to accommodate your preference...

n2mb_racing:

I'm not sure why it's an issue now and it wasn't in the last generation model S. The screen is the same size. Did we just get used to seeing all of it with the yoke?

Unfortunately, the steering wheel adjustment range of the current Model S is significantly smaller than my previous 2017 Model S.