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Is the P85 too fast/powerful?
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Schrike
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I have the P85+, but what really surprised me is how well-balanced the accelerator is. The first half or so of the pedal depression takes it very easy; it is easy to carefully back into a parking spot or drive through a parking garage and minutely control your speed. It's only when you really start pressing on the pedal that it gets crazy. So particularly for letting other people drive it -- if they're by nature more sedate or cautious, they probably won't even notice the power.
GlennAlanBerry
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It's not like the car has mind of its own. Whoever is driving it chooses how much and when to move the accelerator pedal. If the driver does not have any common sense or self-control, they can get into plenty of trouble with a 60 (which pretty quick by ICE standards).
No. You have good control over the acceleration. That said, I've suggested velocity/acceleration limit would be a nice feature should I allow my teenage son to drive the car.
Duckjybe
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Totally agree with this. I have the P85. Price has gone up by $20,000 since I got mine so not sure I would still get it as the 85 is plenty fast. If I had all the money I would go straight for the P85+!!!
Elctrek
Darth Voltage
Johann Koeber
Happy Owner
Every once in a while I start to regret not getting the P; then I remind myself that the difference in acceleration from, say 50 mph to whatever, between the P and the "regular" is noticeable only on a very accurately handled stopwatch. I remind myself I'm within sight of 70 years old and don't really need to scream away from stop lights any more (although I do anyway, sometimes, and it's darn fast); and I recall the other day when a new 'Vette was suddenly trying to catch me, blasting up from behind on a wide-open interstate, and I stepped on it and left him far behind. Slowed down after a few seconds, and when he caught up he gave me a thumbs up with his actual thumb. Given all that, I don't regret not spending the extra $14K. Except once in a while...
I understand the fear but if anything it turns out to be the other way around, the more power you have the more maneuverability you have, given the awesome handling this car has! Precision driving is a joy. I love having the level of control that the performance and + give. The S is great too, but don't avoid the P or + simply out of fear of losing control. you need to give yourself time to get familiar with whichever one you choose.
JPP
Active Member
...faster than I needed it to be...still got my first speeding ticket in a decade about 3 weeks after taking delivery...
No its not. You'll still get blown away by Panamera Turbos etc.. The issue is more that the performance does not last for a sustained period of time (canyon sessions, track etc.). See thread on its inability to do 1 lap for the Nurburgring. Nürburgring lap time for P85+? - Page 3
Al Sherman
It's about THIS car.
It's not too fast. You can drive it like a golf cart if you want. If there are people that you don't trust, just don't let them drive your car. Even if it's a Chevy Spark.
I should expand on my earlier "No".
The extra oomph in the P85 is mostly at low speeds. By the time you're going 60 kph (40 mph) you really can't tell the difference between the two. So I don't think speeding tickets will be much affected by the "P".
Your right foot is in control. Use it responsibly.
The extra oomph in the P85 is mostly at low speeds. By the time you're going 60 kph (40 mph) you really can't tell the difference between the two. So I don't think speeding tickets will be much affected by the "P".
Your right foot is in control. Use it responsibly.
William13
Active Member
I have an S85 and find myself driving quite quickly unintentionally. My average WH/Mi is about 340 wh/mi after 4800 miles. I don't see how people keep it near or below 300. I'm not a crazy driver, but I do find myself noticing that the speed is pretty high already without the P85. I think in my case the temptation would be too great and would just get me into more trouble.
AC1K
Member
Not even close, the P85 is fun, but it would be MORE fun if it was AWD 600HP 800 Torque, i want so many G's against my passengers none of them can breath.
BTW my summer average is 160Wh/km (approx 260Wh/Mi), all about self control.... i only push it when im showing the car to strangers (ive already showed all my friends so its only strangers left)
BTW my summer average is 160Wh/km (approx 260Wh/Mi), all about self control.... i only push it when im showing the car to strangers (ive already showed all my friends so its only strangers left)
simplesolar
Member
Yes, the lack of auditory clues from the ICE makes either version deceptive. My wife got her first speeding ticket in 20 years. She saw the highway patrol, and backed off before she passed him, but only backed off to 80! Still didn't realize just how fast she was going.
Brightonuk
Member
Wont beat a Nissan off the line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLDbW4nYAm0 (43 second Mark watch in HD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLDbW4nYAm0 (43 second Mark watch in HD)
