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Yeah the additional assumption I was making was that the owner was a person with the means and inclination to spend $50k+ on a car.I see. I do agree that $10,000 is too cheap to replace a salaried worker (driver) but if the owner is not in that kind of business, it might not make financial sense.
I wouldn’t go as far as to call it a sports sedan without an adaptive suspension.Yeah the additional assumption I was making was that the owner was a person with the means and inclination to spend $50k+ on a car.
The idea of the car as a robotaxi doesn't make much sense. Tesla is certainly going to take a big cut of your revenue, there will be far too much competition (how many Model 3 have been sold?), and the Model 3 would be horrible taxi (it's a sports sedan!).
I say it’s worth. Especially after a few drinks where you are ok, but legally over the limit. A DUI would cost you more money and time then 10K.
So you have to consider when it would increase safety here (meaning, when will it be good enough???). And there are ALSO paradoxical considerations - reliance on FSD nearly certainly will make drunk drivers WORSE drivers (they’ll be asleep). They will not be able to take over the driving task, so that raises the bar for FSD being able to provide a safety improvement in this use case, relative to a sober driver.
With active monitoring the car should stop if the driver falls asleep.
When people have old hardware and they upgrade to FSD, then they get HW3. If you buy FSD now with HW3, and down the road HW4 comes out will they upgrade you to HW4?
Probably not. They think that they’ll be able to accomplish FSD, at least to it's promised level, using HW3. If HW4 is actually substantially better then you'll likely have to pay for that upgrade.
I could see a scenario where they get FSD working on HW7 and it makes Tesla so much money that they can afford to make everyone who bought HW3-6 whole. I doubt they'll upgrade people from HW3 to HW4 before they get FSD working on HW4 though.Yeah the answer is complicated and there are a lot of scenarios for what “should” happen...depending on trajectory. But the financial impact suggests the answer will be “no,” regardless of the scenario.
What is the average added resale value of FSD? If it was purchased for 8k could you get most of that money back on resale when the price is increased to 10k?
Between $0 and $8,000.What is the average added resale value of FSD? If it was purchased for 8k could you get most of that money back on resale when the price is increased to 10k?
I could see a scenario where they get FSD working on HW7 and it makes Tesla so much money that they can afford to make everyone who bought HW3-6 whole. I doubt they'll upgrade people from HW3 to HW4 before they get FSD working on HW4 though.
That's basically what they decided with 2.5 and why they upgraded everyone for free.
What is the average added resale value of FSD? If it was purchased for 8k could you get most of that money back on resale when the price is increased to 10k?
I say it’s worth. Especially after a few drinks where you are ok, but legally over the limit. A DUI would cost you more money and time then 10K.
When people have old hardware and they upgrade to FSD, then they get HW3. If you buy FSD now with HW3, and down the road HW4 comes out will they upgrade you to HW4?
...The idea of the car as a robotaxi doesn't make much sense...