That would solve everything. Not a CHIME but some little sound effect that's quiet and understated. A little click, a bong, something.
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HEY TESLA -- Safety feature request - ADD THIS!
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beeeerock
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In reality, all of these suggestions (including mine) are based on the user being responsible for knowing whether the car is 'in gear' or not.
Why? This is really just an if-then statement... "IF the operator selects a gear not equal to the current gear AND the gearbox doesn't report back as 'new gear engaged', THEN ignore throttle position input..."
A beep or dash warning could be included to clue the driver into why his right pedal is dead, but the most important thing is that the car doesn't do a stereotypical "geriatric-drives-Camry-through-the-7-11-window" trick at no fault of the driver. :biggrin:
Why? This is really just an if-then statement... "IF the operator selects a gear not equal to the current gear AND the gearbox doesn't report back as 'new gear engaged', THEN ignore throttle position input..."
A beep or dash warning could be included to clue the driver into why his right pedal is dead, but the most important thing is that the car doesn't do a stereotypical "geriatric-drives-Camry-through-the-7-11-window" trick at no fault of the driver. :biggrin:
I'll third the motion. My wife usually drives her BMW, which has a different stalk arrangement. Not infrequently she has thrown the Model S into neutral while trying to activate the wipers (which are on the right-hand stalk of her BMW). This creates the dangerous situation of rolling down the interstate in Neutral with no throttle response until she realizes what she's done.
Cyclone
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Some owners may have the backup camera permanently turned on, so switching into reverse wouldn't trigger the camera activation for them. Additionally, if someone is attempting to get in drive while, for instance, parallel parking, they may not be looking at the 17" screen then to see the rear camera turn off (if they do not have it on permanently). But yes, generally speaking, that would be a good spot check for if you are in reverse. I still would like the vehicle to chime and flash me (on the screen) if it decides to not do a specific action I told it to, like shifting gears. The feedback could trigger a deeper validation of the expected behavior to then see the car did not shift into or out of reverse.
beeeerock
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doctorwho
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Actually it would be helpful to have 2 different sounds:
one to tell you when you've successfully changed gears and a different sound that tells you when you've moved the shifter without the car changing gears
Having driven both, I think you're confused. The Prius' with which I'm familiar beep CONTINUOUSLY when in Reverse. This is irritating, at best.
**The OP, I believe, requests a single "beep" or chime when the gear is changed from one direction to the other.**
Having experienced this problem more than once with our MS's, I have to concur; brilliant solution. This, or something similar, is needed as sometimes the car simply does not shift into the expected gear thus leading to unwanted surprises when maneuvering.
Bravo for suggesting and I hope TM will incorporate ASAP.
p.s. Also, from above, this is the crux of the matter--it's the "failure to comply with my command" that is at the core of this problem. If I think I'm in gear "X" but am actually in the opposite gear, that's when problems arise.... Trust me, once you've driving an MS long enough, this is very likely to happen to you at some point. (Hence, why I wish EVERY Tesla engineer was assigned a car upon hiring; there's a lot of stuff that would be designed out/corrected if Tesla's staff actually lived with these cars every day.)
I FULLY CONCUR with this from above:
"Actually it would be helpful to have 2 different sounds:
one to tell you when you've successfully changed gears and a different sound that tells you when you've moved the shifter without the car changing gears"
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mknox
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Doesn't work that way for me. I regularly pop it into Drive after backing out of my driveway and still coasting backwards. No problem for me and works every time. I don't think I've once been in a gear I wasn't expecting. Could it be that some are not pulling the stalk far enough to trigger the gear change???
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This was a big worry for me since most of my previous cars and my current second car all have the wiper stalk right where the Model S gear selector is. So far, I've never confused it in the Model S, but have turned the wipers on in my wife's car trying to change gears!
Maybe a little off topic, but is there hope that in future software updates (say 7.0) the autopilot (for those who have the hardware) would prevent the car from colliding with an object by looking at the sensors and determining that that it must apply the breaks to prevent even a minor collision?
something along the lines of this: BMW Crash-Proof Car Senses Surroundings - YouTube
something along the lines of this: BMW Crash-Proof Car Senses Surroundings - YouTube
I realize the difference, but I suspect that even if it only beeped once, there would still be some that would want to turn it off--maybe not 25% though
This hasn't been a problem for me, but I'd have no issues with an audible warning--I never had a problem with the Prius reverse beeping. As I've said many times in the Prius group, "The reason there is reverse beeping is because the only indication you have of what mode you are in is the PRND display, something which you'll likely ignore after the first week of driving."
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