What's your best guess on if and when the tech of the Cybertruck(4 Wheel Steer By Wire, 4860 structural battery pack, 48V architecture) will be incorporated in the Model S?
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What's your best guess on if and when the tech of the Cybertruck(4 Wheel Steer By Wire, 4860 structural battery pack, 48V architecture) will be incorporated in the Model S?
Is that related to the number of cells they chose? I would think with more energy density they could do a 500 mile Model S if they wanted.My issue is range. In theory, that would boost Cybertruck to 500+ miles, but in practice, it's only 340 miles.
The same high hope to boost the Model Y to a much higher range but its 4680 structural battery pack architecture was rated for 279 miles.
Is that related to the number of cells they chose? I would think with more energy density they could do a 500 mile Model S if they wanted.
I thought Tesla had a long term contract with Panasonic for 18650 format cells. Maybe it's related to that or some other engineering decision I'm not aware of.I don’t know. It's possible that 4680 would yield more range so Tesla use fewer cells and resulted in only 279 miles for Model Y.
That could mean Model Y could go 500+ miles too but maybe there not enough 4680 in circulation.
Tesla Model S Plaid+ was rated for 520+ miles but its production was canceled because "There are essentially zero trips above 400 miles where the driver doesn’t need to stop for restroom, food, coffee, etc. anyway."
In the meantime, Lucid uses conventional cells from LG 21700, and its top range is 520 miles for Dream Edition and 516 miles for Grand Touring.
What I try to say is: Theory might be promising but what counts is can the theory can be commercialized in a real production line?
That's probably not true. The teardowns showed the Model Y with 4680s was packed to the brim, I don't think there's any way they could nearly double the rangeAlso it looks like Model Y could possibly have a 500 mile range if Tesla loaded it with 4680 cells
Tesla Model Y price to fall with next-generation 4680 battery – report
Tesla’s advanced next-generation battery is expected to provide more range and power at a lower cost, once its availability is expanded – providing the electric-car giant can overcome production setbacks.www.drive.com.au
I think S and X have to stay and keep up. They are symbols. A lot of buyers see an X but can’t afford one and buy a Y. Tesla needs bragging rights Fastest SUV fastest 4 door sedan. They may not have highest direct sales but they impact sales indirectly. A lot of buyers buy say a 3 knowing an S might be something later. They may never get the S but it influenced them getting the 3.That's like saying $8.1 billion does not matter. It does not pass the smell test. That is 10% of annual revenue in 2022. Model Y and likely 3 are tapering in sales, I think the market is saturated. What is going to replace $8.1 billion in annual sales?
They need spread across all price points from Model 2 to Model S.