Probably you can thank the people who used cheater devices vis the volume button.Sadly it only takes a few idiots ro ruin something for the majority.2. Volume button no longer satisfies nag. i doubt it will ever return.
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Probably you can thank the people who used cheater devices vis the volume button.Sadly it only takes a few idiots ro ruin something for the majority.2. Volume button no longer satisfies nag. i doubt it will ever return.
Pretty sure it was 2023.44.30.8.Which build were you on before? Ive been stuck on 30.8 forever it feels like and given how much I use FSD and send reports would hope that might bode well for me getting the new one
It would definitely have a different signature. Similar but very very different I guess you could say. There would definitely be ways to discriminate. The false positives they allegedly still have should be able to be resolved, but the fact that people who use the one hand technique almost never get told they have a defeat device means the signatures are different.The one hand hanging technique is probably very similar to the defeat device.
I think anything that enforces hands actually on the wheel is good. Could make argument scroll wheels should qualify but if the torque detection is working correctly it should be a non issue. Tesla should definitely make it work correctly though.For this particular one, in the absence of defeat devices, I don't think removing a nag dismissal method makes it safer, especially for cars that don't have cabin cameras anyways. Basically there would have been no need to do so, it was just an extra dismissal method.
Well hopefully it is better than v11 which steers wide and goes outside the lines when you gun it during a turn.these types of speed interventions as does end-to-end realize there's additional acceleration to adjust steering?
To be clear, I'm talking about using cabin camera as a replacement for steering wheel detection for nag purposes. The motivation for the camera itself instead is likely to prepare for potential robotaxi use (must have a way to monitor passengers), which is why it ended up as a cabin camera and not a driver camera. It was released in 2019, well ahead of any EU regulation (which didn't kick in until 2022 for new types and 2024 for all new vehicles).AFAIK Cabin camera is because the EU passed a law requiring their use for driver attentiveness and Tesla didn't want to put a proper driver cam in the car so they wrote SW to repurpose the interior robotaxi monitor for this use.
The change in detection happens before the defeat device message. The theory is now it looks for variations, so unless you had some variations naturally, it will nag you about it. The defeat device message may pop up at a later stage than that.It would definitely have a different signature. Similar but very very different I guess you could say. There would definitely be ways to discriminate. The false positives they allegedly still have should be able to be resolved, but the fact that people who use the one hand technique almost never get told they have a defeat device means the signatures are different.
I think anything that enforces hands actually on the wheel is good. Could make argument scroll wheels should qualify but if the torque detection is working correctly it should be a non issue. Tesla should definitely make it work correctly though.
Well hopefully it is better than v11 which steers wide and goes outside the lines when you gun it during a turn.
Is that setting available while you're driving on secondary roads or only on highways? Is it observed on secondary roads?Still must be set to Minimal Lane Changes on each drive. I think this setting should default to the setting in the settings menu.
My friend is a subscriber on 30.8 and is freaking out because he has service scheduled to replace a piece of glass but the invoice shows “ensure recall update is installed” so he thinks they’re going to push him to 2024.XX and mess it up for him.Pretty sure it was 2023.44.30.8.
44.30.14 has it.My friend is a subscriber on 30.8 and is freaking out because he has service scheduled to replace a piece of glass but the invoice shows “ensure recall update is installed” so he thinks they’re going to push him to 2024.XX and mess it up for him.
To be clear, I'm talking about using cabin camera as a replacement for steering wheel detection for nag purposes. The motivation for the camera itself instead is likely to prepare for potential robotaxi use (must have a way to monitor passengers), which is why it ended up as a cabin camera and not a driver camera. It was released in 2019, well ahead of any EU regulation (which didn't kick in until 2022 for new types and 2024 for all new vehicles).
I find it a valuable setting on All roads equally. A second the vote that this should be a Permanent driver setting that stays in the preferred on position. That one is frustrating.Is that setting available while you're driving on secondary roads or only on highways? Is it observed on secondary roads?
Yeah, there's definitely bias in the population who would use TeslaFi too, so good to be careful about what types of analysis are reasonable. Of the remaining vehicles on 2023.44.30.8, there's about 2740 in the US and of those 580 are in California for 21%, and on 2023.44.30.14 600 California / 2810 US also 21%. So far, these are the only 2 versions on the service updating to 2023.44.30.20 with 12.2.1, and all 48 vehicles so far are in US with all but one from California for 98%. And the odd one in Nevada might have actually normally been in California but temporarily traveling next door when updating.Most Teslas are in California, which could explain the apparent bias.
Thanks for the details. It'll be interesting if it's pretty consistently jerky for that intersection and if it does that too for other intersections with parked cars. End-to-end training should result in learned human behaviors, so maybe there's something it's trying to mimic similar to how you say you slowly take the turn. But there's also the special training that Tesla applies such as full stops for taught behaviors, so there could be some mixing of the two behaviors resulting in jerk.I think the jerks were because of the unusual road conditions. No approaching vehicles. The right side is about 90 degrees and usually blocked by parked cars.
As do I with V11. It's on my FSD start checklist.I find it a valuable setting on All roads equally.
Secondarys too. I just did it with the car in Park in the garage, FSD not engaged. Right thumb wheel, pushed right or left changes the agression setting and brings up a card on the screen which includes the Minimal button. Sadly, there seems to be no voice command for it.Is that setting available while you're driving on secondary roads or only on highways? Is it observed on secondary roads?
On my second drive today it was raining, but auto-wipe did not start right away. I tolerated it for a while and they did start, but far later than they should.Oh, and no dry wipes, same as 11.4.9 for me.
Just making sure, this wasn't an interstate? I believe 101 switches between controlled-access freeway and highway with traffic lights and other at-grade crossings. If you toggle the new 12.x "Automatic Set Speed Offset" under Autopilot settings, it might be easier to tell which FSD Beta is active if it helps avoid some not-smooth/un-human-like oddness when it switches back to 11.x.joined the freeway with no problems for 5 miles, negotiated a roundabout smoothly, almost like a human