flashflood
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I chose not to wait for 2.0.
The car is already great and I wanted to start driving. I'll get a new one in 4 or 5 years, with AP 3.0 and 150D
You mean the 150Q...
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I chose not to wait for 2.0.
The car is already great and I wanted to start driving. I'll get a new one in 4 or 5 years, with AP 3.0 and 150D
I think we're sort of in agreement. With 8.0 we'll get the "moderate" improvements to AP 1.0 as Elon tweeted and is quoted above, and lots of hype about how great 8.1 is going to be with AP 2.0 h/w.
But timing wise, they need to sell the AP 1.0 h/w cars before they freeze the market and everyone is waiting for AP 2.0, which I suspect has already started to happen. I think that's why the blog post went quiet...
But hey, I'm just speculating!
Just speculation? At least yours is logical! The speculation I’m seeing, some in this forum and many in the wider online community, is that the P100D is so new that of course it has the equally new AP 2.0 hardware pre-installed. I can’t believe how many people really think this is going to be the case without any evidence coming from Tesla. Many keep referring back to Sep 6 and earlier blogs from Electrek. I just to have to wonder where that information is coming from.
On the point “they may have to flush out the AP 1.0 h/w inventory first,” my impression is that Tesla manufacturing runs fairly lean. I ordered a Model S P100D-loaded on Aug 23 and it’s already slated for delivery a couple of weeks from now. Compare that to 3+ months for a new Porsche Panamera. I’ve read about an estimated Tesla run rate of a couple hundred P100D’s a week, so it seems that Tesla wouldn’t have that much AP 1.0 h/w inventory to clear out.
The blog on AP 8.0 s/w may also be quiet because of the rumored restrictions that are going to be placed on abusive AP users. Tesla has to be aware that its responsible AP users are going to be irritated by all the new hands-on-steering-wheel and other controls that they are going to start enforcing to lessen Tesla’s liability. Maybe they’re trying to think about how to carefully spin that not-so-good news.
In any case, I’m going to wait one more week, and if we don’t hear anything, I’ll cancel my order and forfeit the $2,500. I am not going to be that guy who gets the last AP 1.0 car.
Inmiddels is labor day wel voorbij...elon zijn "time management" is nog tip top ;-)
Hij heeft nog altijd andere zorgen...
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In any case, I’m going to wait one more week, and if we don’t hear anything, I’ll cancel my order and forfeit the $2,500. I am not going to be that guy who gets the last AP 1.0 car.
I already asked if I could postpone, just 1 day after the 1-week grace period, which unfortunately is when I found out that AP 1.0 going to AP 2.0 could be an issue. I had called Tesla Inside Sales and they kindly suggested to me that I could postpone, which I was glad to do. However, when I contacted my local Delivery Experience Specialist to do so, she said "No, because the car is already in production," which at that point of time (just 8 days after ordering) was probably in the production queue, not in actual production.Postpone the delivery and save yourself $2,500..
oh that sucks . You can try escalating and see what gives? What is the order that you have, in production queue in 8 days is unheard of.I already asked if I could postpone, just 1 day after the 1-week grace period, which unfortunately is when I found out that AP 1.0 going to AP 2.0 could be an issue. I had called Tesla Inside Sales and they kindly suggested to me that I could postpone, which I was glad to do. However, when I contacted my local Delivery Experience Specialist to do so, she said "No, because the car is already in production," which at that point of time (just 8 days after ordering) was probably in the production queue, not in actual production.
Ik kan nog niet helemaal achterhalen of het politieonderzoek nog niet was afgerond ten tijde van de kennisgeving door Tesla. Tesla heeft de informatie zondermeer met de politie gedeeld en de politie heeft bevestigd dat de bevindingen van Tesla overeen komen met haar eigen onderzoek. Mogelijk dat de politie bij Tesla al wel had aangegeven het onderzoek te hebben gesloten, waarop Tesla haar bericht naar buiten brachr voordat de politie in de media het sluiten van het onderzoek kenbaar had gemaakt.
Follow this link on the Tesla web site, that's inventory...On the point “they may have to flush out the AP 1.0 h/w inventory first,” my impression is that Tesla manufacturing runs fairly lean. I ordered a Model S P100D-loaded on Aug 23 and it’s already slated for delivery a couple of weeks from now. Compare that to 3+ months for a new Porsche Panamera. I’ve read about an estimated Tesla run rate of a couple hundred P100D’s a week, so it seems that Tesla wouldn’t have that much AP 1.0 h/w inventory to clear out.
Actually 8.0 is very much about Autopilot 2.0 hardware because Tesla can't do what it wants with Autopilot 1.0 hardware. The advanced radar processing is not very helpful if you are only processing data from a single, forward-facing radar. AP 2.0 is supposed to have multiple radar units, so enhanced radar processing in 8.0 must be contemplating the additional radar units that are coming "soon".
There is no evidence I am aware of to support that view that any Tesla will be manufactured with the AP 1.0 hardware AND the three forward facing cameras installed.AP 1.5 - With the new Tri-Camera that Model X owners already have the wiring assembly for, and possibly some very recent Model S's.
To avoid confusion I think people need to start thinking in terms of three discrete levels of AP.
AP 1.0 - As it is now
AP 1.5 - With the new Tri-Camera that Model X owners already have the wiring assembly for, and possibly some very recent Model S's.
AP 2.0 - With the multiple radar unit and side camera's.
If you're getting a Tesla now I wouldn't worry about AP 2.0. That's still a long ways away (>6 months), and I wouldn't worry about AP 1.5 either because it's likely at worst case that you'll get the wiring assembly for it.