European SuperCharger rollout updated

[Raffy.Roma]

I guess you must be feeling very happy now.

Of course. In Italy it's not easy to find fast charging places. Now I'm looking for Superchargers be placed also in the South of Italy.

 

[J-Philipp]

Of course. In Italy it's not easy to find fast charging places. Now I'm looking for Superchargers be placed also in the South of Italy.

Same in France. But "Winter 2014" means that we'll have to wait another 12 months, at best, to see the first SC on line...

 

[Benz]

Realize that Europe includes Iceland!

Yes indeed. And many more countries. But it will happen steadily. That's the smoothest way to do it. Tesla Motors has learned from their experience with the US Supercharger map. They have now taken another (more wise) approach, I think.

 

[Right_Said_Fred]

Same in France. But "Winter 2014" means that we'll have to wait another 12 months, at best, to see the first SC on line...

At best? I would say at worst! Because the map shows the situation as it will be in Winter 2014. It could be that some of the superchargers/routes are a;ready finished by Spring or Summer 2014, maybe also in France.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

At best? I would say at worst! Because the map shows the situation as it will be in Winter 2014. It could be that some of the superchargers/routes are a;ready finished by Spring or Summer 2014, maybe also in France.

Agree. For instance from the map it could be that, by the end of 2014, 3 or 4 SCs could be placed in Italy.

 

[J-Philipp]

At best? I would say at worst! Because the map shows the situation as it will be in Winter 2014. It could be that some of the superchargers/routes are a;ready finished by Spring or Summer 2014, maybe also in France.

Was just assuming that "Winter 2013" was referring to Nov13-Mar14, and "Winter 2014" to Nov14-Mar15. And the beginning of that "Winter 2014" period is still more than 12 months ahead. I guess I'm wrong...

 

[Benz]

If I take a look at the route Amsterdam to Munich, it looks to me that not only Frankfurt, but also Stuttgart is on the route. Does anyone agree with me on this?

 

[gregincal]

Was just assuming that "Winter 2013" was referring to Nov13-Mar14, and "Winter 2014" to Nov14-Mar15. And the beginning of that "Winter 2014" period is still more than 12 months ahead. I guess I'm wrong...[/QUOTE

Why would they only build superchargers in the winter? Winter 2014 means by winter 2014, or sometime between Mar 2014 and Mar 2015.

I notice they've gotten tired of people superimposing dots on maps to guess at individual locations. :wink:

 

[Benz]

There will be no more than 1 or 2 Supercharger locations in The Netherlands.

 

[Benz]

Supercharger at the IAA in Frankfurt has been put there just temporarily.

There is a Supercharger at the IAA in Frankfurt. But this one has been put there just temporarily. When the IAA in Frankfurt will end, this Supercharger will be removed from this location. That means that this is NOT one of the Supercharger locations on the route Amsterdam to Munich. This information has been obtained from the IAA in Frankfurt.

 

[Fast Laner]

The SC on the southern part of Germany should perhaps be Frankfurt and Nürnberg.

 

[Fast Laner]

The ideal location for Frankfurt would be:

Steigenberger Airport Hotel Frankfurt

North of Autobahn 3 and Federal Highway 43 and opposite of Frankfurt Airport Terminal 2.

This location is less than 5 min away from either direction of Autobahn 5 and 7, which is the bussiest Autobahn crosssing in Germany named Frankfurter Kreuz.

Best Regards

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another location to the east:

Mainfrankenpark at the crossing of Autobahn 3 and 7 named Biebelrieder Kreuz. Distance from frankfurt 82 miles.

 

[AQQU]

I can confirm, also being told by TSLA staff at IAA, that the IAA Frankfurt SC is a temporary and "portable" solution with no permanent location assigned to.

 

[Benz]

I can confirm, also being told by TSLA staff at IAA, that the IAA Frankfurt SC is a temporary and "portable" solution with no permanent location assigned to.

Thanks for confirming the info about this temporary IAA Frankfurt Supercharger.

 

[matbl]

Map has been further updated with "range blobs" and some additional routes (west from Geneva for example).

 

[gregincal]

I'm glad they've connected the "loose ends" that didn't make any sense. Not only Geneva but also being able to drive all the way down southwestern France to Toulouse, but not connect the last 160km to the Mediterranean.

 

[nikwest]

Map has been further updated with "range blobs" and some additional routes (west from Geneva for example).

I think the range blobs don't make a lot of sense. They suggest that you can drive within that blob. But in fact I think that this is not the case as the radius of that blog seems to be 320km. To freely drive within a blob you'd also have to consider that you need to go back and hence the blobs should have a radius of 160km. Or do I miss something here?

 

[stevezzzz]

I think the range blobs don't make a lot of sense. They suggest that you can drive within that blob. But in fact I think that this is not the case as the radius of that blog seems to be 320km. To freely drive within a blob you'd also have to consider that you need to go back and hence the blobs should have a radius of 160km. Or do I miss something here?

I think the larger radius is consistent with Tesla's stated intent that Superchargers are located so as to provide fast charging between city pairs (i.e., driving from point A to point B without having to use slower charging), and are not intended for destination charging, where a slower charge is acceptable. When the edge of a 'range blob' is in the outback it may make less sense, but there it is.

 

[gregincal]

I think the larger radius is consistent with Tesla's stated intent that Superchargers are located so as to provide fast charging between city pairs (i.e., driving from point A to point B without having to use slower charging), and are not intended for destination charging, where a slower charge is acceptable. When the edge of a 'range blob' is in the outback it may make less sense, but there it is.

Yeah, this is the way the blobs have always been on the US supercharger map. Right now it shows that I should be able to go to the Sierras in California, which I can. Unfortunately, unless I can find a place to charge there (which is basically impossible outside of Tahoe) I can't get back. However, that should change over time.

 

[Johann Koeber]

Looks like Germany is getting the greatest density of SC. Watch out Audi, BMW and Mercedes - there will be a lot of Teslas on the road, especially on the Autobahn. I hope to be able to do Nuremburg - Dusseldorf soon (I drive back and forth once a week, 420 km one way).