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When traffic is very light, and you're not driving in weird downtown type situations, the system can do that pretty regularly around here- especially if you're willing to be patient with dumb or slow (but not actively dangerous) things like taking too long at a stop sign (the light traffic tends to be a key factor there).
Both?You don’t believe what ? That he will like 11.4 or that he had zero disengagement drives ( which he posts videos of) ?
I take that back. Watched it again. There was a car coming. The car just parked before it passed. But it started steering back out in front of the car, so still wrong.Actually, I started watching one of those videos, and within the first fifteen seconds, I saw two mistakes that I would have disengaged for:
So I guess technically anybody can have zero disengagements if their standards for when to disengage are low enough. But ignoring behavior like that gives Tesla drivers a bad rep.
- It got uncomfortably close to a car parked on the side of the road.
- After passing that parked car, with another parked car maybe 30 feet ahead, it weaved over to the edge of the road and back out again unnecessarily (with zero cars coming towards it).
You guys are completely confused.Actually, I started watching one of those videos, and within the first fifteen seconds, I saw two mistakes that I would have disengaged for:
Given that the top causes of accidents are distracted driving, speeding and drunk driving, it's easy to see how FSDb, which does none of these, easily makes cars safer than the average motorist, despite it's many flaws. Since I've been testing FSDb, I've become very much aware of how poorly most people drive.You guys are completely confused.
zero-disengagement <> perfect drive.
Heck, half the humans should be disengaged, the way they drive.
That hasn't been my experience.
[*]Maybe one in five turns is jerky to the point where I take control.
[*]It suddenly changes lanes in the "don't change lanes" area by traffic lights.
[*]It thinks light rail traffic lights are for cars.
[*]It ignores traffic lights and stop signs randomly.
[*]It weaves back and forth between garbage cans, aiming right for the next can before suddenly dodging back out at the last possible second, rather than staying to the left as it should.
[*]It ignores speed bumps 80% of the time.
[*]It willfully obeys truck speed limits on highways.
[*]It goes over both edge lines on highways without a signal.
[*]When it isn't doing stupid things, it is so skittish that I have to intervene with the accelerator constantly to avoid getting honked at.
But maybe my standards are too high.
This will not happen for another 3 years at the minimum. Where is that roadster?That will motivate me to take a road trip in my Model Y.
Think about the math here. An FSDb that makes absolutely none of these mistakes might well be FAR more dangerous than the average driver.Given the top causes of accidents are distracted driving, speeding and drunk driving, it's easy to see how FSDb, which does none of these, easily makes cars safer than the average motorist, despite it's many flaws
It goes over both edge lines on highways without a signal.
There's a sweeping right corner a block from my house where on basic AP the car crosses the double yellow line every time. Sometimes only 6 inches, sometimes 3 feet. It's never not crossed there. It's a well painted line.Not even basic AP back in 2018 has ever done that for me.
There's a sweeping right corner a block from my house where on basic AP the car crosses the double yellow line every time. Sometimes only 6 inches, sometimes 3 feet. It's never not crossed there. It's a well painted line.
It's one of 2 tests I do with every release, just for fun. The other is a block earlier where it can't navigate a fork in the road. Unless there's a lead car, it weaves a bit, then hands off to me while heading straight at the big tree at the point of the fork, yelling to take over, and sounding the collision warning.
Not yet, but I can make one in the next few days.Well, basic AP isn't intended to handle things like forks (esp on local roads), so that one doesn't surprise me.... the 3 feet over the lane line does though- have any video perchance?
FSD does this for me too around a certain tight, blind curve in my daily commute. It's MUCH better now than it used to be, but it still goes over the line a bit more often than not.There's a sweeping right corner a block from my house where on basic AP the car crosses the double yellow line every time. Sometimes only 6 inches, sometimes 3 feet. It's never not crossed there. It's a well painted line.
It's one of 2 tests I do with every release, just for fun. The other is a block earlier where it can't navigate a fork in the road. Unless there's a lead car, it weaves a bit, then hands off to me while heading straight at the big tree at the point of the fork, yelling to take over, and sounding the collision warning.
This does to me too, but only when there's no cars coming from the other side. Otherwise, it stays quite safe within my lane on the latest version...FSD does this for me too around a certain tight, blind curve in my daily commute. It's MUCH better now than it used to be, but it still goes over the line a bit more often than not.
Atleast an acknowledgement that it is not "super smooth" now.That will motivate me to take a road trip in my Model Y.