Does anyone have a link to a recording of what this defect sounds like? My wife just reported a new noise in my S85 delivered 3/2014.
Here's one of the "milling" sound: http://edpost.net/MillingNoise.mp3
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Does anyone have a link to a recording of what this defect sounds like? My wife just reported a new noise in my S85 delivered 3/2014.
Here's one of the "milling" sound: http://edpost.net/MillingNoise.mp3
Probably very close to my build-- drat...2014 Q2 and replaced once. No issues so far.
if tesla doesn't fix this before Model 3 comes out, they are going to have a massive unsustainable problem on their hands.
You forgot option 4-sloppy remanufacturing process. Tesla knows exactly the cause of the issues, and for the most part they have been taken care of in new drive units.This is really insane. I would guess they have replaced thousands of drive units already with each one dissected to find the root cause of failure. If it hasn't been fixed by now, it means:
1. They don't know the cause
2. They know the cause but not the fix
3. The problem is unfixable
None of the above sounds promising to a current S owner.
You forgot option 4-sloppy remanufacturing process. Tesla knows exactly the cause of the issues, and for the most part they have been taken care of in new drive units.
82k miles and 4 drive units (all for milling noise). given that my 4th drive unit replaced about 5 weeks ago with a BRAND NEW unit (not remanufactured), and just this past week i can hear the subtle start of the milling again with only about 4-5k miles on it the new one, I'd say NO it's definitely not getting better. If anything, it's getting worse.
Unfortunately, we don't know what the occurrence rate is since we have only 48 people reporting here that they have had at least one replacement. The denominator could be "number of people who have seen this poll and responded".I agree, sort of. My only question is - how many Model Ss have this problem? Sure we see a lot about it on forums, but people like me don't post to say "My Drive unit is perfect! It was perfect in the first Model S I bought in 2013 and my new 2015 car is perfect too!!".
What percent of MSs have this?
Regardless of that answer, though, its clearly a huge concern if multiple repairs fail to fix it. That part scares me no matter what the rate of the occurrence is.
I would need to agree with this statement. Longest lasting was the first...I'd say NO it's definitely not getting better. If anything, it's getting worse.
The new drive units are definately not perfect, but they are much better than the early ones. If one wants a completely silent drive unit, Tesla is probably not going to be the car to go with. Some of the SC's are authorized to take DU's apart, and the problems are well documented.Please see the post where a brand new drive unit is having issues.
Tesla knows exactly the cause of the issues, and for the most part they have been taken care of in new drive units.
Sure, miles will potentially reveal problems, but I have driven many Model S cars with and without the noise, and just because the car has high miles, doesn't mean it will be noisy. FYI, I have the 65 mph drone, and a very faint milling noise. For the past 20k+ miles the noise hasn't got any louder. Car has 43k miles on it, and was silent for a couple thousand when new. The SC wants to replace DU, but I don't. I drive either 55-60 mph or 85mph+most of the time(its quiet at those speeds), so the noise doesn't bother me. I know as soon as they put a Reman DU in, I will have a noise that will be bothersome, so no DU replacement for me....You need miles on it for it to start to happen. New cars and new units usually won't start the milling noise until around 15k miles. For the avg joe that's over a year. AFAIK it's a fleet wide issue with all units. Most people just don't have the miles racked up yet for it to happen or be loud yet. And there's also people that have it that can't hear it themselves because it's subtle and outside of their hearing range.