Yes, very stupid people make false accusations. And which irrational thought am I accused of? Only trying to assess the safety or non safety of vaccine for children. I made few or no assertions just trying to collect facts and opinions. Only idiots like yourself jump to conclusions.
I'm fully vaxed and got vaccinated as soon as I could. I was happy and excited to get vaccinated.
I think your logic is confused here.
Maybe, but your post sure sounded like trolling. Most of the people have been here for a long time and while we don't always agree, we accept facts. Accusing people of "murder" for requiring vaccines is not going to get you much respect here. And attacking @bkp_duke and @AlanSubie4Life is really not a good idea. They add more to this thread then anyone else here. So if you plan to stick around you might want to rethink your approach.
Which logic are you referring to?
Your are confused. Where was it stated "... go to VAERS and determine how many deaths there have been due to the vaccine? I only stated that I searched VAERS as was suggested and reported results.
I interpret that as an invite to search VAERS. Do you disagree?
What makes you reach that conclusion? Are you reaching the conclusion that all the deaths in the VAERS database are not attributable to the vaccine?
Your idols have faults, accept it. Perhaps the murder question was a bit much. I'll think about how to collect opinion in a lighter fashion.
Yes it is an invite to do that. However there was an “and” in my statement that he was not saying to do that - you can’t search AND determine the number of adverse events (or deaths) due to vaccine. It’s kind of a way to establish an upper bound (most likely - it may not even be an upper bound since in theory there could be under-reporting). That’s all.
I haven’t seen any confirmed reports of deaths in children due to COVID vaccination. What’s the baseline rate of deaths in children (they’d be required to be reported as a potential adverse events if they occurred in a certain time window, as I understand it)? How many reports would you expect due to that baseline rate? Have you calculated it? (This is what I meant by “think.”) I do believe it will be news when a confirmed death occurs. And eventually I actually expect one to occur (I’d guess due to allergic reaction or cardiomyopathy). But not yet, AFAIK. Have you seen any such reports?
Yes, because they are unquestionably less likely to be infected.
If you were asking “given infection,” that’s trickier. There’s some evidence that viral loads can peak just as high, but that they drop off a bit quicker. It’s generally pretty poorly studied, is my impression, since you really are only looking at the symptomatic people for these studies, usually. It’s hard to determine how asymptomatic people spread in general and whether it is different for the vaccinated. Anyway: It’s definitely possible and likely for a symptomatic vaccinated individual to spread the virus, but on average it’s probably a bit less likely. Just a guess though. There are several studies out there at this point.
www.theatlantic.com
www.newscientist.com
This is a lie being spread by certain groups in attempts to deceive. Anyone repeating it likely has similar motives. The truth:
www.wbaltv.com
I look at mask wearing as being similar wearing a seat belt. The first thing done when getting in a car is putting the seat belt on. It (should be) so much of a habit that it's buckled (without thinking) even for just a driveway shuffle. (Of course, I know people in my age group where buckling up is an afterthought to be done only when the alerts chime--but it shouldn't be.) The first thing done whenever there is a chance of meeting people is mask up. Outside or inside makes no difference because although a person may be conscious of social distancing, the other person may not be.
