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EV_de
Model SP10/XP9 EU ZOE#47
... touchpad is new MMI Standard for A6 and above
+ Mennekes
+ SOC LCD in Chargeport
- no frunk !
purposes of the right Port at 8:15 - Fuel ? Hybrid ?
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Déjà-vu ... Audi metroproject quattro - Tokyo Motor Show 2007
2011 - almost nothing left ... I'm driving currently an A1 ... not worth to wear the Rings ....
+ Mennekes
+ SOC LCD in Chargeport
- no frunk !
purposes of the right Port at 8:15 - Fuel ? Hybrid ?
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Déjà-vu ... Audi metroproject quattro - Tokyo Motor Show 2007
2011 - almost nothing left ... I'm driving currently an A1 ... not worth to wear the Rings ....
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EV_de
Model SP10/XP9 EU ZOE#47
they did it again .............
caught new Audi at Potsdamer Platz Berlin
... audi-urban-concept-2011-erlkoenig ...
caught new Audi at Potsdamer Platz Berlin
... audi-urban-concept-2011-erlkoenig ...
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And what a horrible proposition it is. It's range and accelleration is barely beating the Model S, and it's about as practical as a Roadster. Unless it's priced significantly below the Roadster and considering the R8 name I doubt that, I can't see what the R8 tron brings to the table? Slightly more comfort in a crazy performance oriented design though without the actual performance? I get the ICE R8 and what it brings to the table I just don't get the R8 etron? Can someone please explain this to me?
Cobos
i don't get it either man. I actually think the ICE R8 LOOKS better, is more practical and will likely be cheaper. I mean... limited range AND subpar performance to a base R8? Sheesh.
I agree. When they don't sell they will say"we tried, nobody wanted elecctric". Too bad for them though as Tesla is proof it is possible to make what people want at a reasonable price.
Yes, I dont think that any manufacturer can match Tesla's specs for the price. Well, they could compete, but lose money on every vehicle sold. I don't think anyone except Nissan is willing to do it.
stopcrazypp
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It might appeal to those waiting for a Model S coupe, but not at the price of an R8. They should have done a bit more in performance even if it means charging a higher price. It's not like they will make it in enough volume to make it cost less than a ICE R8 or anywhere close to a Model S.
IMHO that's the problem all established car makers face when doing an EV: Every Joe and Jeanne draws comparisons with the sibling ICE model. With current EV technology, they will find lots of drawbacks
less top speed
less range
less cargo space
reduced number of seats
higher price
How they try to get out of the hot water:
* Renault is teaming up with Better Place to bring the Fluence Z.E. to customers
* BMW starts a sub brand (BMWi) and constructs completely new EVs/PHEVs
* Rolls Royce might bring their EV prototype to production, price will simply not matter
* the EVs are not sold to private customers (Smart ED as of now, new Toyota RAV4 EV)
Dare I say the opposite strategy is taken, too:
GM proposes the Volt and sells the Cruze
Then they roll over, kick their feet in the air, and shout: "see, I tried, but it didn't work (in the real world)". Oops, sounds familiar.
less top speed
less range
less cargo space
reduced number of seats
higher price
How they try to get out of the hot water:
* Renault is teaming up with Better Place to bring the Fluence Z.E. to customers
* BMW starts a sub brand (BMWi) and constructs completely new EVs/PHEVs
* Rolls Royce might bring their EV prototype to production, price will simply not matter
* the EVs are not sold to private customers (Smart ED as of now, new Toyota RAV4 EV)
Dare I say the opposite strategy is taken, too:
GM proposes the Volt and sells the Cruze
Then they roll over, kick their feet in the air, and shout: "see, I tried, but it didn't work (in the real world)". Oops, sounds familiar.
Sure, they can and will do that. Then new players like Tesla will come in and eat their lunch.
If a major transition to EV technology does happen, and despite the naysayers I believe it is inevitable, you can expect many if not most of the major existing car companies to go under. It will take time for the pendulum to swing, but when it does it will slam right into them. There are many historical parallels. None of the electron tube companies survived, despite some of them investing in that new-fangled transistor technology. Yes, early transistors sucked compared to tubes, but the technology improved and the market for tubes imploded. Sound familiar?
It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
If anyone Sees any other EV's out there that they think should join us at EV Fest - EV Fest - Toronto's Premier Electric Vehicle Fall Festival - point them over to the EV Fest Thread here for the latest updates! Thanks Guys, and if anyone else is within a charge or two of Toronto for Oct. 23, 2011 - c'mon down and check us out! Last years show was a blast and we had but 1 Roadster! Make it a Rainbow this year!
Robert
A lot of lip service from Audi, but nothing substantial yet. Even their prototypes are behind the s and roadster when it comes to range and performance. Considering they'll be charging premium prices anyway you'd think they could fit more batteries in there.
tdelta1000
Active Member
I agree but I also think Audi and others are waiting to see how well the S will do before going whole hog.
I certainly wouldn't do it by putting out an electric sports car that costs more and has poorer performance than the only other production sports ev. Though, they probably assume, with some truth, that most have never even heard of the roadster. Even in that case, with the torquey electric motor, at least beat the ICE counterpart.
About the R8 eTron Spyder:
Range isn't an issue since it's a hybrid, but at least the performance on this one matches the base V8 R8.
Range isn't an issue since it's a hybrid, but at least the performance on this one matches the base V8 R8.
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