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It's probably safe to assume the earliest buyers (the most pro-Tesla) are the least price sensitive if considered as an overall group. And folks in this forum probably skew to even further to the pro-Tesla end of things. Tesla's initial deliveries are also heavily skewed to warm climates (largely due to Tesla's location in the SF bay area bringing heavy awareness in that area) and those folks are again likely to care less about the drawbacks of 21" rims (bad weather and bad roads due to bad weather).The greater the number that vote in this poll, the more valid my numbers will be. I expect to have something out later this week.
At this point there aren't Perfs that ordered with 19" since the poll isn't considering Sigs. Sigs are something of a special case given they're already willing to pay a surcharge for the car.^ If you give credit to those in your Catergory B then you'll also have to go back and offer it to those who've already ordered in Category A.
At this point there aren't Perfs that ordered with 19" since the poll isn't considering Sigs.
I'm just saying the poll isn't about Sigs. The poll is about the standard vs. Perf. Not the Sig vs. Sig Perf.Huh? Where did it say that Sig buyers couldn't vote?
Every Sig purchaser is paying a Sig surcharge, therefore they must be willing to pay for it. Granted, not every Sig reservationist may end up a purchaser.It's a massive assumption to state that those people [Sig purchasers] are willing to pay a surcharge for the car.
There's no Perf upgrade price differential for Sig buyers based on wheel choice so this entire thread is sort of pointless when applied to Sigs.^ Sigs weren't excluded, on the contrary 3 of the 4 options on the poll are past tense implied which means Sig buyers.....
Nigel, I understand your point, but it's addressing a non-factor. With Sigs, there is no one in category B since there is no additional price differential based on tire choice.^^ Thanks Peter. That's what I was unsuccessfully trying to get across to ckessel.
BTW: Good luck with your argument, but I still think you're flogging a dead horse.
From a financial point of view (i.e. Tesla profit), only two real poll options matter:
A) People buying the Perf with 19" tires despite no credit.
B) People skipping the Perf because of the lack of credit.
Yep, if they gave credit, it's a done deal for me. Without the credit, that extra $3500 gap vs. the base model is out of my comfort zone.I've convinced myself now that if I can get a credit for the 19s, I'll go performance. I'd better not get my hopes up.
I'm struggling with this very issue. 21" wheels in snow country is worthless as a year round solution.Nigel, I understand your point, but it's addressing a non-factor. With Sigs, there is no one in category B since there is no additional price differential based on tire choice.
If you don't agree, I'd be very interested in hearing a scenario where someone chooses not to upgrade Sig->PerfSig due to the lack of tire credit. I can't come up with one. I can certainly believe they'd like the credit, but I can't see it determining whether they get the SigPerf. It's $10k to move from Sig->SigPerf regardless of what tires you'd choose.