Please take a look at the response to question 2 here: Responses to NAIAS questions.Without an automatic mode I am uninterested. Also, is the ride significantly better?
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Please take a look at the response to question 2 here: Responses to NAIAS questions.Without an automatic mode I am uninterested. Also, is the ride significantly better?
I could use a little education on this issue. I am not a performance driver. I am a speed limit driver. I have never had a sports car. Do I want this feature? The price is not the issue. The price versus choosing other options is also not an issue. Why would I want it and what does it do? Why would I not want it? Thanks in advance. I really appreciate everything I have learned here.
Has anyone confirmed that the traditional springs and shocks will even be offered. I raise that point because the different battery weights would mean different spring/shock combinations. One show I watched on BMW stated they tried 7,000 different combinations to get the right ride quality. I can't imagine Tesla having the manpower to try 7,000 combinations and what ever number needed for the different weights. My point being the car may come with standard air suspension, however it is not "active" in the sense it will raise and lower or adjust to ride quality (soft, firm). The price point of $1,500 for all the components we see on the body on white chassis appears low and that points to another reason the "active" part is what the additional cost is for.
Suspension:
Front Suspension: Double-wishbone, virtual-steer-axis
Rear Suspension: Independent multi-link
The Model S suspension system was developed for the unique architecture of Model S. It works in harmony with the rigid and light Tesla platform to provide precision handling and optimum comfort. Unencumbered by an engine, the lightweight front suspension optimizes wheel control. The rear multi-link suspension is designed to seamlessly integrate with the powertrain.
Suspension:
Front Suspension: Double-wishbone, virtual-steer-axis
Rear Suspension: Independent multi-link
I would imagine they would use computer simulation to narrow down the options first, rather than actually trying 7000 combinations.Has anyone confirmed that the traditional springs and shocks will even be offered. I raise that point because the different battery weights would mean different spring/shock combinations. One show I watched on BMW stated they tried 7,000 different combinations to get the right ride quality.
My point being the car may come with standard air suspension, however it is not "active" in the sense it will raise and lower or adjust to ride quality (soft, firm).
This makes sense to me. Otherwise different battery packs may require different sets of springs and possibly shocks/struts. I would definitely want to be able to upgrade to higher capacity battery in the future without changing the suspension.
Assuming they use the same amount of cells, the difference in cell weight between the 60kWh and 85kWh pack is only about 25 lbs, well within passenger/cargo weight. The 40kWh pack will be the one that will be significantly lighter.This makes sense to me. Otherwise different battery packs may require different sets of springs and possibly shocks/struts. I would definitely want to be able to upgrade to higher capacity battery in the future without changing the suspension.
Assuming they use the same amount of cells, the difference in cell weight between the 60kWh and 85kWh pack is only about 25 lbs, well within passenger/cargo weight. The 40kWh pack will be the one that will be significantly lighter.
Good point about future swaps. To reduce production costs too, Tesla's probably better off going with air suspension across the board while providing the "active" aspect as the $1,500 option (gosh, that must merely be a software routine - think of the margin that Tesla'd be making on that option! :smile
I would imagine they would use computer simulation to narrow down the options first, rather than actually trying 7000 combinations.
I called a Tesla DC store rep today and asked what the standard suspension for the Model S would be and he said standard coils like in other cars. Inactive air suspension is not the standard.
This, then, raises the questions raised before:
(1) On cars without air suspension, is the metal coil suspension designed for a specific battery weight (so, changing batteries when replacement time comes == changing suspension)
(2) On cars with air suspension, what degree of metal suspension is present if the air suspension fails (I'm guessing there's some; it would make sense to design the car to "fail safe", perhaps driveable but with a very low clearance).
This, then, raises the questions raised before:
(1) On cars without air suspension, is the metal coil suspension designed for a specific battery weight (so, changing batteries when replacement time comes == changing suspension)