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    Waymo

    Faster and faster expansion.
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    Yup, i hope all AV companies are solving for this too, it can be really bad. I don't really consider this to be an edge case but that's just my assumption that it occurs more often than people realize. In big cities where there are lot of utility line underground like NY.
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    We don't need to complicate it. It drove over an open manhole cover and the tire either went in or lifted a partially open lid and the undercarriage got damaged. Just a reminder of how bad it can be depending on fast you are going.
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    AI News

    In 2017 Google published The Transformer architecture paper Attention is All you Need, which kick started much of the AI revolution including GPT, FSD, Generative AI that we all use today. They are back at it again with another paper for a new architecture called Griffin, which they claim...
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    Waymo

    That is a very clean parking maneuver. Took ~20 seconds from discovering where it wanted to park to completing the parking.
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    Waymo

    Waymo and Uber are expanding on their partnership and offering Uber Eats food delivery with autonomous Waymo vehicles Starting today.
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    Waymo

    I imagine something like "two irresponsible Tesla owners are sitting in the back seat while their vehicles on FSD beta attempts not to crash into each other". But since FSDb is not L4, we would never know now, would we?
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    Wiki Consumer AV - Status Tracking Thread

    You are both saying the same things but in different ways. Sensor processing is the most computationally expensive. Well with high resolution sensors as well the type of architecture and software you need to process the volume of data coming in realtime plays a role in how much compute you...
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    Waymo

    I was about to say the same thing. It would be a testing ground to see how their service and infrastructure holds up to servicing large locations. I think this might be the new normal now, expanding in larger areas. From this 2019 To this 2022/2023 To 2024
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    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    It's "the same board" just not populated completely because they don't plan on retrofitting those cars.
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    Waymo

    Liability reasons. You already see how much pushback Waymo is getting just by driving on regular road, add crossing boundary into people's private property. I think the Waymo driver handled it by itself. Waymo's do have the capability to resolve issues on their own. I believe so because it took...
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    Waymo

    Another example of Waymo refusing to cross the road edge boundary whereas we see humans driving on the curb to get by the roadblock. Similar situation to the alley incident where Waymo will not cross the road edge into a private property instead backed all the way out vs here doing the 3 points...
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    Wiki Consumer AV - Status Tracking Thread

    GM Super Cruise map update. Old 400K miles New 750K miles
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Is this where we pretend that any proof provided to you will satisfy you? When you don’t even accept Tesla telling you on their own website that FDSb is not autonomous as proof.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    It is a L2 ADAS system that people have misused to their own peril and in many cases has led their death.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    That is a nonsensical point to make because a Tesla cannot drive by itself anywhere on this planet. I know this because Tesla says so.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    So, something like this by Tesla stating that the feature is not autonomous and requires constant supervision by a driver? https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-2CB60804-9CEA-4F4B-8B04-09B991368DC5.html https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Legally you who engaged the feature is driving even when your hands and feet do not touch the steering or brake. Super Cruise is literally hands free; you are still considered the driver because you engaged a L2 system. The expectation is that you are monitoring and will intervein as necessary...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    You answered your own question. If FSDb was L4, even if you engaged the feature and strapped 4 bags of rice in the passenger seats, the software is legally responsible for whatever happens. As it is L2, you are personally responsible for whatever happens. In the same way you can use summon...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    This thing is not even up for debate. It's like conversing with a flat earther. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-2CB60804-9CEA-4F4B-8B04-09B991368DC5.html https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot They are not just saying that to avoid regulation. They literally can't do...
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    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Cook is not talking nonsense. He is just not a sycophant. Do you know what actually prevents climate change? Progressive policies and laws that regulate massive businesses and promote EV growth. Do you know what stops world wars? Progressive policies that foster international relationships. Do...
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    Waymo

    In a statement, Waymo, based in Mountain View, said their vehicle was at a complete stop at a four-way intersection. "An oncoming large truck progressed through the intersection in our direction and then at our turn to proceed, we moved into the intersection. The cyclist was occluded by the...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    https://patents.justia.com/patent/11854390
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    Waymo

    I'm not talking about that situation, I already addressed that previously. My speculation in that situation is that the vehicle cannot go into private property. There is no change in the roadway just a car blocking part of a one-way street. The vehicle does not want to cross the boundary into a...
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    Waymo

    Waymo vehicles can remap and update drivable spaces on the fly. https://patents.justia.com/patent/11853070
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    Waymo

    You are basically making up what the passenger says. Kevin Chen: "so I think the thing is, if you look at here, it's like even though we could probably kind of cut into the driveway on the left a bit, uh its drawn as a road boundary so I wonder if that's uh related why we are not willing to um...
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    Karpathy: Self-driving as a case study for AGI

    Oh no, not just Teslas fans. He himself was the originator of that misinformation about waymo. He famously said HD Map has to include leafs on a friggin tree and not scalable because mapping is so hard and not scalable, yet now he says this: Also he has nuked the page. Lol
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    Waymo

    This is fantastic to read. Clearly defined ODD.
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    Waymo

    That’s a massive expansion.
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    They don't share that information but looks to me like ~Full HD or ~2.1mp cameras which is ~2x the resolution of HW3/4 cameras. That said, it's not about the resolution of the cameras though that helps in resolving details in the distance, it's about the capabilities built into their perception...
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    Yup, it's pretty cool all of the things these systems can detect and classify. And that's not really the hard part, relatively speaking, the hard part is using all that information to drive safely. It's too bad all these information is hidden behind simple UI because the passenger really does...
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    The post you responded to does not say it is proof, it simply states Waymo obeys hand signals from police. It does not state it is the absolute fact but based on prior knowledge on how the system is designed to operate, you can conclude that Waymo is responding to the traffic control personnel...
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    Waymo

    They indeed do understand if the person is relevant. I'll use Zoox for example where they discuss pose estimation, classification and semantic understanding.
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    Anyone else think this is a slap in the face for long term FSD buyers?

    I'll save you the time. There is none. Elon Musk is a professional salesman just like Steve Jobs. There are teams of engineers who do the work. Don't get me wrong we need those sorts of people who have the money and ability to inspire and motivate to get things done. But these people tend to...
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    I think both of you are saying the same thing but in different ways. Waymo can handle inclement weather in general as part of their ODD hence they have not specified, low, mid and high. There was a time when rain was not part of Waymo's ODD. If it starts to drizzle just slightly, the car will...
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    Wiki Consumer AV - Status Tracking Thread

    Technical difficulties maybe?
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    Wiki Consumer AV - Status Tracking Thread

    Mobileye roadmap/portfolio
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Seems we're on a redundancy train, here is a good read on redundancy. It is a well understood problem and there are various ways to achieve it. This is the process NASA used in designing the redundancy systems of the space shuttle. Computers in Spaceflight: The NASA Experience - Chapter Four...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Just about the only thing I love about this company (bar management) as a tech enthusiast is the willingness to move fast break things and keeping on iterating and willingness to take risks. Can’t wait to see the progress 2024 holds.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I’m sorry that’s too many information, how will they know which one is more accurate. They should use only one. Lol
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    You are talking about Segal's law which talks about the problem of having too many or too little information. The man who has a single watch does not in fact know if his time is accurate and the man with two watches does not know which one is more accurate. When you are talking about safety...
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    Waymo

    The statement is not absurd. How good something is, has no bearing on what level of automation it is assigned. It all boils down to design intent. Tesla released a summon software that can't navigate a parking lot at 5mph without hitting a curb. Tesla released autopilot which has been...
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    Waymo

    Your lack of understanding of a subject does not inherently make it stupid. The levels are a useful taxonomy to describe the role of the driver/passenger. You might not personally like it or understand it as evident, but it is what the entire industry is using currently to define their level of...
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    Waymo

    I'm not a physician but I'm a lab tech and yes leeches are approved by the FDA and NHS for use. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3757849/ https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-approves-leeches-medical-devices-flna1C9447212...
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    Waymo

    Please inform yourself before calling things stupid. Leeches are still used in modern medicine. Leeches are used to promote circulation of blood in a specific area, because they secrete hirudin and calin which prevent blood clotting, post-surgical procedure, etc...
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    Waymo

    The autonomous levels are what everyone making these systems go by. If the car stops every 100 ft for 1 1/2 minutes, common sense dictates that, the vehicle is a bad autonomous vehicle but still autonomous, nonetheless. The levels do not dictate how good or bad an ADS is, just the role of the...
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    Waymo

    Foggy Night Drive from Venice to Santa Monica.
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    Autonomous Car Progress

    NIO has similar feature; you drive once for it to map and learn the parking lot then it can park by itself in that same parking spot every time when you pull into the entrance, but you can't summon it to come back to your location, the Huawei feature is more advanced and seems to be a true valet...
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    Waymo

    It is refreshing to have someone that is very knowledgeable in this field speak realistically about the subject matter.
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    Waymo