Fast Forward a Few years

harry · Aug 24, 2012

I was in town today in our RAV4 EV and rolled down a window while stopped for a light. The din of the traffic was overwhelming, almost all of it ICE sounds. We've gotten so used to it that we don't really hear it, I suspect. But I fast forwarded a few years in my mind and thought about what the city would sound like without the ICEs. It will be an amazingly quieter place, and if more people could visualize what a difference EVs will make it should be another incentive to buy now.

Krugerrand · Aug 24, 2012

Great visual...or is that great auditory?

CapitalistOppressor · Aug 24, 2012

harry said:
I was in town today in our RAV4 EV and rolled down a window while stopped for a light. The din of the traffic was overwhelming, almost all of it ICE sounds. We've gotten so used to it that we don't really hear it, I suspect. But I fast forwarded a few years in my mind and thought about what the city would sound like without the ICEs. It will be an amazingly quieter place, and if more people could visualize what a difference EVs will make it should be another incentive to buy now.

The main thing I think about is all the poor blind people who will be run over

dmckinstry · Aug 24, 2012

CapitalistOppressor said:
The main thing I think about is all the poor blind people who will be run over

Yeh. But with all the ICEs gone, they'll be able to distinguish the location of the tire noise.

rolosrevenge · Aug 24, 2012

Meh, blind people aren't allowed to drive, so as long as they walk on the sidewalk and wait at crosswalks for the beeping noise, they'll be fine. Last time I checked, me not hitting people while I drive is much more a function of me avoiding them then them running out of my way.

brianman · Aug 24, 2012

harry said:
But I fast forwarded a few years in my mind and thought about what the city would sound like without the ICEs. It will be an amazingly quieter place

Sadly, it wouldn't. One of the nicer aspects of ICE audio pollution is that it acts as a white noise to combat the "music" of other drivers.

Discoducky · Aug 24, 2012

brianman said:
Sadly, it wouldn't. One of the nicer aspects of ICE audio pollution is that it acts as a white noise to combat the "music" of other drivers.

Honestly, what's worse, heavy diesel rumbling/fumes or country music? :tongue:

brianman · Aug 24, 2012

Discoducky said:
Honestly, what's worse, heavy diesel rumbling/fumes or country music? :tongue:

I wasn't talking about country music. That's actually music.

And fumes is a different thing. I was talking about just the audio.

Krugerrand · Aug 25, 2012

Discoducky said:
Honestly, what's worse, heavy diesel rumbling/fumes or country music? :tongue:

Hands down, country music! No contest.

jkirkebo · Aug 25, 2012

Krugerrand said:
Hands down, country music! No contest.

Yeah, I'd have to agree on that one :tongue:

dsm363 · Aug 25, 2012

Country music about heavy diesel rumbling?

Johann Koeber · Aug 25, 2012

Discoducky said:
Honestly, what's worse, heavy diesel rumbling/fumes or country music? :tongue:

You're asking for a discussion!

vfx · Aug 25, 2012

brianman said:
Sadly, it wouldn't. One of the nicer aspects of ICE audio pollution is that it acts as a white noise to combat the "music" of other drivers.

With the cars and traffic quieter people can turn down their radios. No need to escalate audio.

brianman · Aug 25, 2012

vfx said:
With the cars and traffic quieter people can turn down their radios. No need to escalate audio.

If only that were that case. I know it's not the case every time I reach a stoplight on a "windows down" day.

dmckinstry · Aug 25, 2012

Discoducky said:
Honestly, what's worse, heavy diesel rumbling/fumes or country music? :tongue:

Country music isn't the problem. It the ones booming heavy base throbbing at 100+dB with their windows open.

jerry33 · Aug 25, 2012

dmckinstry said:
Country music isn't the problem.

Unless you actually have to listen to it.

dmckinstry said:
It the ones booming heavy base throbbing at 100+dB with their windows open.

+1 Or even with the windows closed (yours or theirs) because window position doesn't make much difference. Sometimes you get lucky and their base matches what you're listening to but usually it's just annoying.

Vger · Aug 25, 2012

Thanks for bringing up this other noxious ICE emission. I also long for this future...

vfx · Aug 25, 2012

brianman said:
If only that were that case. I know it's not the case every time I reach a stoplight on a "windows down" day.

Cause everyone is driving a noisy gas car.

Doug_G · Aug 25, 2012

vfx said:
Cause everyone is driving a noisy gas car.

OMG the thread wandered back on topic!

Yes, I think the FUD about making EVs have noisemakers would go away if the driving environment was quiet in the first place. There's plenty of sound from the wheels; you don't need an ICE.

jerry33 · Aug 25, 2012

Doug_G said:
Yes, I think the FUD about making EVs have noisemakers would go away if the driving environment was quiet in the first place. There's plenty of sound from the wheels; you don't need an ICE.

The FUD about EVs having noisemakers is mostly about keeping EVs looking like toys. Real grown ups don't drive toys, so adoption is slowed giving the ICE car manufacturers a little longer life. Of course, that's not how it's spun to the legislators and no legislator wants to appear unsympathetic so it's an easy sell, even if the facts don't support it.

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