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Highly doubtful. The increased range or any perceived increased range would more than likely be due to increased outside temperatures. Welcome to springtime.
Highly doubtful. The increased range or any perceived increased range would more than likely be due to increased outside temperatures. Welcome to springtime.
Yep. Coming up on my third spring season and it just amazes me how much the efficiency improves with temperature.
Pack temperature management (warming) during winter consumes a lot.I'm curious as to why it makes such a difference? According to the drag equation the air drag is proportional to the density. And density is inversely proportional to the Kelvin temperature. So at -20, the air is only 16% denser than at +20. Yet the energy consumption goes up far more than 16%, even with the HVAC off.
I wonder if there are some opportunity for improvement there.
I'm curious as to why it makes such a difference? According to the drag equation the air drag is proportional to the density. And density is inversely proportional to the Kelvin temperature. So at -20, the air is only 16% denser than at +20. Yet the energy consumption goes up far more than 16%, even with the HVAC off.
I wonder if there are some opportunity for improvement there.
Many people who's rated range at 90% had dropped over time experience a brief increase of the rated range shown after a firmware update. This has been reported several times.Some people have reported noticeably better wh/miles numbers after installing the latest 6.2 update - can anyone confirm?
If you go to Tesla's web site and use their range estimator, without climate at 55 mph, you see a range of 352 miles at 70 F. At 0 F, the range is 330. This is only a 6% reduction. That doesn't seem right. As you noted, increased air density should result in a greater reduction than 6%.
For my PHEV, without using climate, energy consumption, in EV mode increases 40% at 0 F. There is no battery heater for this car.
Completely agree. That said, I believe it was Doug_G that mentioned that after one of the 6.1 upgrades he had a rated range increase that "stuck" (stayed) rather than vanishing after a few charge cycles. I'm happy to report that my sig had a similar bump in rated range with one of the 6.1 upgrades as well. My 90% charge is in the 230s consistently for 3 months now. Prior to 6.1, it was 221-223mi. at 90% depending on the ambient temperature (higher for warmer weather).Many people who's rated range at 90% had dropped over time experience a brief increase of the rated range shown after a firmware update. This has been reported several times.
Usually the number drifts down after a couple of charge cycles, but sometimes their were algorithmic changes that did indeed either change what was displayed (oh well, better guestimate - we had this especially in the 4.x series, also at some point in 5.x) or made a difference in actual rate (recently for P85D)
+4% is significant. WOW. I must have missed that discussion...My 90% charge is in the 230s consistently for 3 months now. Prior to 6.1, it was 221-223mi. at 90% depending on the ambient temperature (higher for warmer weather).
Pack temperature management (warming) during winter consumes a lot.
That said, I believe it was Doug_G that mentioned that after one of the 6.1 upgrades he had a rated range increase that "stuck" (stayed) rather than vanishing after a few charge cycles. I'm happy to report that my sig had a similar bump in rated range with one of the 6.1 upgrades as well. My 90% charge is in the 230s consistently for 3 months now. Prior to 6.1, it was 221-223mi. at 90% depending on the ambient temperature (higher for warmer weather).
And I am one who has never seen a bump or reduction of even 1 mile across firmware updates. (I have an A-pack). I get 218 Rated Miles at 90% with about 42,000 miles on the clock.
There's 44.5k miles on my sig's clock; also an A pack. FYI.And I am one who has never seen a bump or reduction of even 1 mile across firmware updates. (I have an A-pack). I get 218 Rated Miles at 90% with about 42,000 miles on the clock.
No. Yes, if there's no degradation and perfect estimation by the capacity sensing and algorithm.Isn't 218 a little low for 90%? Shouldn't it be 238 based on a 265 rated miles?
And I am one who has never seen a bump or reduction of even 1 mile across firmware updates. (I have an A-pack). I get 218 Rated Miles at 90% with about 42,000 miles on the clock.