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Old 10-04-2008, 07:40 AM   #1
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EV Incentives

The passage of the "bailout" bill has great news for EV buyers!


from Calcars News

On the reasonable assumption that the President
will sign the rescue bill, we will have
substantial tax credits for plug-in cars. Next
year, whoever is President can build on this with
incentives for more than 250,000 cars, inclusion
of high-quality aftermarket conversions, a
federal fleet purchase and other measures.

Here's my quote on what it means, followed by two
news reports explaining the provisions:

"The new tax credits for plug-in cars are higher
than either Presidential candidate has proposed.
Now automakers and car buyers will no longer see
higher up-front costs as a showstopper. In the
centennial year of GM's founding and Ford's Model
T, the auto industry can now enter a century of
plug-in cars. And with this legislation, we'll
also get more wind and solar energy that will
make plug-in cars drive cleaner every year
they're on the road." -- Felix Kramer, Founder,
The California Cars Initiative (CalCars.org)
GREEN CAR CONGRESS: "Senate Version of Bailout
Bill has PHEV Credits" 2 October 2008
Green Car Congress: Senate Version of Bailout Bill has PHEV Credits

The revised bailout legislation passed by the US
Senate on Wednesday (H.R. 1424) -- which has
ballooned from an original 3-page plan from
Treasury Secretary Paulson to the 451-paqe bill
approved by the Senate -- contains among its many
other new provisions a tax-credit for plug-in hybrid electric vehicles.

The credit is a base $2,500 plus $417 for each
kWh of battery pack capacity in excess of 4 kWh,
to a maximum of $7,500 for light-duty vehicles;
$10,000 for vehicles with gross vehicle weights
of more than 10,000 but less than 14,000 pounds;
$12,500 for vehicles with a GVW of more than
14,000 but less than 26,000 pounds; and $15,000
for any vehicle with a GVW of more than 26,000 pounds.

Phaseout of the credit is to begin after the
total number of qualified PHEVs in the US sold
after 31 December 2008 is at least 250,000.

Qualifying vehicles must have a battery pack with
at least 4 kWh of capacity—a provision that will
preclude the inclusion of the first generation of
Toyota PHEVs as well, potentially, as other lower all-electric range
plug-ins.

EDMUNDS GREEN CAR ADVISOR "Plug-In Tax Credits
Hitching Ride On Wall Street Bail-Out Bill"
October 3 by John O'Dell
"Plug-In Tax Credits Hitching Ride On Wall Street Bail-Out Bill" Green Car Advisor

(with a CalCars photo)

As the House of Representatives takes up the
$700-billion financial system rescue bill today,
it automatically will be considering a
multi-billion-dollar package of tax breaks for
alternative energy programs and plug-in hybrid
purchases. The plug-in and alt-energy credits
were tacked onto the bail-out bill in the Senate
Monday to short-circuit an impasse that had
developed in negotiations with the House and was
threatening to kill the measures.

The plug-in hybrid tax credit provision would
provide $1 billion in tax credits for purchasers
of plug-in hybrids, the amounts varying with the
amount of all-electric travel a particular model
could provide. A car with an extended-range
electric drive system such as the upcoming
Chevrolet Volt, due for production at the end of
2010, would qualify for a $7,500 credit - the
maximum for vehicles under 10,000 pounds. The
credits are based on battery capacity rather than
electric range, but range increases with capacity.

The Volt, with a 16-kilowatt-hour battery, will
be capable of traveling 40 miles on its initial
charge, according to General Motors. Plug-in
vehicles with at least a 4-kwh battery pack would
qualify for a $4,168 tax credit. Chrysler and
Nissan Motor Co. both have announced plans to
build electric vehicles with Volt-like systems by
or after 2010, while Toyota is developing a
plug-in with a shorter all-electric range that it
will begin leasing to fleet customers at the end of 2010.

The incentives would phase out as sales of
plug-in mount, disappearing after automakers
collectively sell more than 250,000 plug-in
vehicles in a calendar year. The tax credit
portion of the bail-out bill also has larger tax
breaks for plug-in versions of medium and
heavy-duty trucks. It also extends existing tax
credits for cellulosic ethanol and biodiesel
development, and for wind, solar and hydro-electric power.

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Felix Kramer fkramer@calcars.org
Founder California Cars Initiative
California Cars Initiative for Plug-In Hybrids
CalCars-News Archive
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:54 AM   #2
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How do these tax credits work for a buyer? Do they offset income tax, or are they taken off the price of the car at the time of purchase? Something different?
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:59 AM   #3
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Those articles talk about PHEVs but what about BEVs? Will Tesla's vehicles qualify for the credit too?
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:43 AM   #4
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According to This Article - Detroit News the tax credit is for both PHEV and BEV (emphasis mine):

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The provision would grant all-electric vehicles or plug-in models with at least a four-kilowatt battery pack a $4,168 credit. A vehicle like the extended range Chevrolet Volt with a 16-kwh battery would qualify for the maximum $7,500 credit for vehicles under 10,000 pounds.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:08 AM   #5
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How do these tax credits work for a buyer? Do they offset income tax, or are they taken off the price of the car at the time of purchase? Something different?
Tax credits offset income tax. This makes it as good as cash except you don't get it at time of purchase. You have to wait until you file your tax return (Jan1 -April 15 window). Also, if you are subject to the AMT (alternative minimum tax) you will loose some or all of your tax credits. The AMT starts to apply at about $250k/yr income.

Tesla buyers likely make enough that the AMT will eliminate all of the plug-in tax credit. Chevy Volt buyers may get some or all of the credit.

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Also, if you are subject to the AMT (alternative minimum tax) you will loose some or all of your tax credits. The AMT starts to apply at about $250k/yr income.

Tesla buyers likely make enough that the AMT will eliminate all of the plug-in tax credit. Chevy Volt buyers may get some or all of the credit.

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Yeah, AMT can catch some people by surprise.
Lots of hybrid buyers making less than $250K missed out on their credit because of AMT. In states with high state income tax (like California), AMT can hit you at well under $250K. It depends on a lot of factors.

Hybrid Tax Credits & Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) | Hybrid Cars
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  • The larger your family, the harder it is to escape the AMT.
  • Homeowners with incomes between $150,000 and $400,000 are very likely to be subject to AMT.
  • Residents of California, New York, and any other state that charges state income tax are more likely to fall into the AMT bucket."
Hybrid Car Credits and AMT - Tax Tips from TurboTax
Annual Newsletter 2007: Beware the AMT trap for the hybrid vehicle tax credit
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Yeah, AMT can catch some people by surprise.
Lots of hybrid buyers making less than $250K missed out on their credit because of AMT. In states with high state income tax (like California), AMT can hit you at well under $250K. It depends on a lot of factors.

Hybrid Tax Credits & Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) | Hybrid Cars
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  • The larger your family, the harder it is to escape the AMT.
  • Homeowners with incomes between $150,000 and $400,000 are very likely to be subject to AMT.
  • Residents of California, New York, and any other state that charges state income tax are more likely to fall into the AMT bucket."
Hybrid Car Credits and AMT - Tax Tips from TurboTax
Annual Newsletter 2007: Beware the AMT trap for the hybrid vehicle tax credit
I've heard that there were massive disclaimers when the Prius tax credits were being pushed. You can expect the same and no recourse should YOU miscalculate the applicability of the tax. Still, $7500 off any EV is a big deal, especially the Volt. GM will be able, assuming there isn't dealer gouging to offer it around $$35,000.
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It was mentioned on the Owner's Board that the original Bailout plan (the one which fell through) specifically planned for the $7500 to act as a tax credit regardless of qualifying for the AMT. But it is unclear that this new Bailout plan does so.
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It was mentioned on the Owner's Board that the original Bailout plan (the one which fell through) specifically planned for the $7500 to act as a tax credit regardless of qualifying for the AMT. But it is unclear that this new Bailout plan does so.

I suppose a rationale would be that the "masses" would fall smack in the middle of the families that are affected by the AMT. Good catch.
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To the provisions of the failed bill, it adds help for homeowners who have mortgage trouble, more oversight of the Treasury's purchases of shaky assets, and executive-pay restrictions. It also includes ways that the Treasury can try to recoup any losses if it doesn’t break even on its eventual sales of the assets it will buy.

But beyond that, a number of tax breaks were bundled in as well. One provision exempts roughly 20 million taxpayers from having to pay the alternate minimum tax. The vehicle tax credits make up one subsection of the bill’s Transportation and Domestic Fuel Security Provision.
Still unclear as to if the plug-in tax break has anything to do with the AMT at this point - but I am hopeful.
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