Yes, that will likely be the case too. However, I think optimized battery vs. optimized battery will show the biggest difference especially at higher speeds.
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2024 Model 3 Performance Announced - Discussion thread post announcement
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I'm not exactly how the new vehicle is a 'huge let down'.
Nope, I don't have one yet, but from various reviews I've seen:
The car is quicker/faster than he previous version in just about every way (More power/torque/etc.)
The interior has been upgraded with better sound proofing
The suspension is apparently substantially better
Slightly improved aerodynamics
Ventilated sports seats
Slightly larger front screen
Addition of the rear-seat screen
Fewer parts = fewer potential points of failure
And so on.
Is there some definitive/measurable way in which the new M3P is 'worse' than the previous year?
Not trying to be argumentative, just really trying to understand some of the disappointment I see. So far it seems like it boils down to some folks having high expectations, and when high expectations are not met, even smaller improvements are often overlooked.
Definitely had higher expectations...but also thought the car would be significantly more expensive. Given it's low price point, I think the car is a great value. There is also room for another higher level trim actually if Tesla wanted it. I'm excited to see the actual performance results when this gets released publicly.
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There’s a lot of truth to your reply! I had high expectations of the top end pull improving substantially. In the pursuit of that expectation becoming a reality I did overlook the good small improvements they made. Overall I think it’s solid, I was just hoping for a Plaid go kart
The 82.1 kWh Model 3 Performance battery can’t output as much power as the Model S/X battery. However, the old Model 3 Performance wasn’t maximizing the battery’s capabilities. The new car will put out absolutely everything the battery can give it.
My guess is it will hit a wall at around 90mph whereas before it was at 60-70mph. The new drive units are capable of nearly 700hp altogether but battery constraints… Wonder if they’ll refresh the battery soon after this first iteration.
Bigger issue than the battery I think is that the front motor is still induction and will have a steep power drop off still.
I can definitely sense that here - if we had some more data, 0-60 tests,. 1/4 miles, top-end numbers, it would at least clear the air a bit.There’s a lot of truth to your reply! I had high expectations of the top end pull improving substantially. In the pursuit of that expectation becoming a reality I did overlook the good small improvements they made. Overall I think it’s solid, I was just hoping for a Plaid go kart
Here's hoping we get that info sooner rather than later, even if it's just so we finally -know-.
Front motor no longer matters until about 90 mph. Rear motor can take so much power they are actually starving the front motor to feed the rear motor until almost triple digits. That gives you an artificial flat HP curve until almost 100 mph. It will definitely fall off after that though.
(re-post as I posted in the wrong thread earlier) So it's been 2 weeks now since the new MP3 launch and I've seen all the media YouTube video reviews which were released that day or days later that didn't tell us what we really wanted to see, some actual test results!
Not sure why Matt Watson was brought into the Austin plant to test the Cybertruck but was not one of the early media to test the new M3P. Would be fun to see him line this up in a three way race against the previous M3P and the new IONIQ 5N here in the states. And you know he'll drive in the one he thinks is the fastest cause that dude hates losing. Doing this same video in the UK with the same cars won't be as telling because of the MP3 battery differences between the US Panasonic spec'd M3P and the LG spec'd M3P.
Not sure why Matt Watson was brought into the Austin plant to test the Cybertruck but was not one of the early media to test the new M3P. Would be fun to see him line this up in a three way race against the previous M3P and the new IONIQ 5N here in the states. And you know he'll drive in the one he thinks is the fastest cause that dude hates losing. Doing this same video in the UK with the same cars won't be as telling because of the MP3 battery differences between the US Panasonic spec'd M3P and the LG spec'd M3P.
Agree and you haven't even mentioned forged wheels with 40mm wider rear tires. So many improvements make this a much improved vehicle and far from being a let down. When they make this in QuickSilver and if they ever re-offer FSD transfer, I'm all over it.
Yes. Please people cancel your car. This car is sh*t. I don't even know why they bothered.
Exactly. Plus NO ONE besides people here in the forum are calling it ludicrous. Tesla is calling this M3P.
Correct. Actually, owners have only been able to pull off 0-60 times of 3.3 seconds vs the advertised 3.1 in the MS LR despite Tesla NOT subtracting the 1 ft rollout time in their ads like they do with the Plaid. So the new M3P will be noticeable faster from a dig.
Jason Camissa noted on his YouTube podcast that he got sub 3 second runs with a passenger onboard without rollover subtracted. That would indicate that the Tesla might be sandbagging the true performance.
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