Yes woosh I guess.
Can you explain it to me more? Are you categorically dismissing statistics as a source of knowledge about the world? Do you have a problem with the usage of California sales data as a measure of Tesla’s demand, especially amongst the demographic we are concerned about? Are you implying I was being deliberately misleading?
Not misleading, but like that wiki article, we can all find statistics to try to "prove" our position.
My point was simply that a lot of times, people like to quote some numbers and think they are geniuses because they have "statistics" to back it up. I think you were the one who posted a chart about Amazon and Tesla (correct me if I'm wrong) and Tesla did so great because you generated this nice chart saying look, Tesla didn't do that bad because Amazon and Meta did worst. I then replied maybe you should have compared it with Enphase instead (see how I can say wow, that chart was horrid...even compared to the Dow or S&P which anyone can buy).
In your original reply to me, you first stated that only 2 brands had higher Q3 numbers vs. Q2. I posted Lucid and now, you dismiss them as being tiny. Ford's EV division had great growth over Q2 and Q3, but now, you point out that oh, it's not a whole brand, but when it's Lucid, they're just too tiny so let's dismiss them now.
You see how with statistics or pretty much any numbers, people can make anything looks good and it's all silly talk to me. My own feeling is we'll see where this all ends up in 1 or 5 years. Will Twitter be a monster social media platform after that time?
Will Tesla still be as dominant and in 1 year, 5 years, will an investment in Tesla be better than say, other EV companies or is it better to just buy say the S&P or the Dow or Nasdaq? Clearly, the past year has been horrid for Tesla as an investor, but this could be a temporarily setback. I'm not short or long the stock.
I clearly don't know, but am not going to spout or post statistics that it's clearly better. People just LOVE LOVE LOVE posting some statistic which supports their case, but someone else can post some other statistic that's against it. I'm sure we can find tons (like in China probably) of slower demand/production needed there if we wanted. Fact is Tesla is cutting prices right now by $3750 because customers are delaying purchases. If demand is insane, like say the F150 EV Lightning, I think people are happy to not pay ADM if there was even an F150 available on a lot.
At the end of the day, I simply think Tesla's have been around a long time, I'll state again that I'm not going to take anything away from Elon and how much he has contributed, but the competition is catching up IMO (again, that's all IMO), plenty of other EVs are pretty decent, not everyone needs to supercharge or take long trips (their #1 advantage IMO). Not everyone cares for software updates nor FSD.
There was a WSJ article if Tesla can do what Apple did and make their whole cars an ecosystem with full self driving (total waste of $$ IMO for $15k) and can get more $$ from folks like apple did with their appstore, but I have reservations on if that can happen for a car platform. I personally like spending as little time in my car as I can and like having Android auto or Apple carplay, like having 360 cameras, like not having to press a button to simply open the glove box, but that's me.