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  1. GenSao

    PowerShare for All Teslas & Integration - speculation

    As "any Powerwall system" is capable of power share, I am hoping to see other Tesla cars compatible in the future. Although it may be a typo, the image below implies a "regular" wall connector may be used. The other scenarios require a universal wall connector.
  2. GenSao

    Apr 20, 2024 - Model X price drop by $2,000 !!! wtf...

    At least there is now some headroom ($2K) to add an option and still qualify for the tax credit. BTW, charts are nice. Lowest price ever for the LR trim. Lowest MSRP for a Model X was $74K. Link to my data.
  3. GenSao

    Discussion: Powershare [V2X feature currently announced for Cybertruck]

    Agreed. What looks interesting is a "Powershare Mobile Connector" included in the Foundation Series.
  4. GenSao

    Discussion: Powershare [V2X feature currently announced for Cybertruck]

    Tesla's Cybertruck offically has Power sharing. "No additional equipment required when homes are equipped with Powerwall and Wall Connector." https://www.tesla.com/powershare
  5. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    The Model Y LR-AWD today received a $500 price increase. See date for chart here. Graph shows trims available to order online in US. Off The Menu (OTM) trims are dashed.
  6. GenSao

    Supercharger - Whittier, CA (LIVE 26 Oct 2023, 12 V3 stalls)

    Here is the link for good measure:
  7. GenSao

    Supercharger - Minot, ND

    Location is coming soon per Tesla on X (formerly Twitter) denoting the Supercharger routes across the US/Canada border.
  8. GenSao

    Supercharger - Newark, CA - Gateway Boulevard (LIVE 12 Oct 2023, 22 V3 stalls)

    For posterity, Tesla's X (Twitter) post on the location:
  9. GenSao

    Supercharger - Tofte MN

    For the record, here is Tesla's X post:
  10. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    @pipestem No problem. @ColMan Probably to encourage orders vs. people shopping for inventory. I imagine inventory discounts may back & stronger near the end of the quarter.
  11. GenSao

    Supercharger - Scottsdale, AZ - 7366 E Shea Blvd

    For the record, here is the X post:
  12. GenSao

    Supercharger - Martinsburg, WV - Apple Harvest Drive

    For posterity, here is the X post:
  13. GenSao

    Discussion: Powerwall 3 [Speculation / Discussion etc]

    Yes. Some utilities/municipalities limit the output of backup battery systems that can be interconnected to the grid. This is a way of adjusting the output to meet local regulations.
  14. GenSao

    Discussion: Powerwall 3 [Speculation / Discussion etc]

    Congrats on the new Powerwall! I am curious on the text (specs) on the side....
  15. GenSao

    Isaacson Biography of Elon Musk

    5 days to go.
  16. GenSao

    Discussion: Powerwall 3 [Speculation / Discussion etc]

    Wow, based on the table "PV DC Input Capability" was checked "Y". Could this mean that the Powerwalls could now directly input solar? This would eliminate the need for a sperate inverter and make Powerwall+ not needed.
  17. GenSao

    Model X price cuts- yet again

    See historic prices below. The lowest price for the Standard Range version was $81,000. A January 2024 price below $80,000 is indeed possible for the Standard Range X. Link to data and references. I am amazed that there was a $40,000 premium from a 100D to P100DL in 2018.
  18. GenSao

    Any experience with Quicksilver wrap in the San Jose area?

    This looks similar to quicksliver. When I looked at wrapping prices in the east bay, it varied $3K-$4.5K https://www.vinylfrog.com/products/glossy-metallic-liquid-silver-vinyl-wrap
  19. GenSao

    Tesla's battery-manufacturing 'Megafactory' breaks ground in California

    Tesla's footprint in Lapthop quitetly expands. Based on some recent leasing information, Tesla now uses 701 D'Arcy Parkway (possibly for storage). Simwon (A Tesla Tier 1 Supplier) has added 619 Tesla Drive as their third building in the area. Also, 500 E Louise Avenue serves are Tesla's...
  20. GenSao

    Surprised not to see a discussion thread about the brand new Energy screens / Charts in Tesla app [7.15.2023]

    Wow! Although I don't see it on my end, it is great to see the graphs will track vehicle usage.
  21. GenSao

    Waiting Room for MYLR/MYP: July 2023 Orders

    Update. MYLR Midnight Silver (Will wrap to a metallic silver) 19" Gemini Wheels 5 Seat/Black Enhanced Autopilot (dropped EAP for now) OD: July 9th ODD: July-August EDD: July 27th VIN: 7SAYGDEE5PF839XXX Per Tesla rep, Birthday; 07/20/2023 2:38 PM (PDT)
  22. GenSao

    Model Y Listed @ $39,990 on MVPA?

    For a VERY short time, Tesla sold the Tesla Model Y SR-RWD trim for $39,990. The price drop was on February 17, 2021 and quickly discontinued a few days later. There are posts here on TMC confirming deliveries were made at this price point. See below historic base price for all Model Y trims...
  23. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    To keep it simple, I only track MSRP a.k.a. base price. Gest messy when I include other items. I made an exception for off-the-menu (OTM) tracking and the Model 3 P- trim. Pricing excludes order fees, destination charges, government fees, taxes, promotional offers, and all options. Pricing ≠...
  24. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    Yes it would, but the accuracy of inventory data are debatable. Note, I typically do not include the effect of promotional offers in the base price; such the $500 referral credit and inventory discounts. For completeness, here are the charts for the S & X. Link to data here.
  25. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    Agreed. Though the rumor of a refresh for the Model 3 (Highland) this year with a follow-up for the Model Y in 2024 may increase prices. Are the rumored improvements are worth the wait?
  26. GenSao

    Waiting Room for MYLR/MYP: July 2023 Orders

    Ordered our 2nd Tesla. Have a 2018 Tesla Model 3 and replacing a 2014 Toyota Prius-Plug-In PHEV. MYLR Midnight Silver (considering wrapping to a different color) 19" Gemini Wheels 5 Seat/Black Enhanced Autopilot OD: July 9th ODD: July-August EDD: July 12 - July 26 VIN: None Location: SF Bay...
  27. GenSao

    $500 Rebate for Powerwalls until October 31

    Below are prices in California excluding the rebate. Price of solar went up since I last checked in March 2023. Previously prices are below.
  28. GenSao

    Supercharger - Burney, CA (LIVE 14 Jun 2023, 8 V3 stalls)

    Great location. Provides a midpoint charge location for Redding, CA to Alturas, CA and Susanville, CA to Mt. Shasta, CA. Mineral, CA would be a great spot to top up before going to Lassen Volcanic National Park.
  29. GenSao

    Tesla new model silhouette

    Yes. I think the final shape will be different. I expect a sub-compact SUV/CUV similar to: Audi Q3, BMW X1, Volvo XC40, Mercedes GLA, Lexus UX. The silhouette almost reminds me if this old image... https://electrek.co/2020/11/24/elon-musk-tesla-hatchback-electric-model-designed-in-europe/
  30. GenSao

    Tesla new model silhouette

    I'll admit it isn't a perfect comparison (variations in price and specs). All cars roughly fit in their general segment. See below chart for the Top Selling models in California in 2022. Source: https://www.cncda.org/wp-content/uploads/Cal-Covering-4Q-22_FINAL.pdf The intent was to show...
  31. GenSao

    Tesla new model silhouette

    Two is indeed possible. I expect "boxier" compact vs the 3. Shorter in length (compact) and taller (higher than the 3, similar to the Y) to be 1st. I would call it the Model Z, it fits nicely in a SUV/CUV ladder below... Model Z ($30-42K) = Audi Q3, BMW X1, Volvo XC40, Mercedes GLA, Lexus UX...
  32. GenSao

    Model X price cuts- yet again

    Here is a graph for the Model X since 2018 (5 years). Graph shows trims available to order online in US. Trims are combined for simplicity. link to data.
  33. GenSao

    Model 3 LR not currently available to order (USA) [posted 08.12.2022 --Its back! 05.02.2023]

    I agree, likely LFP batteries. The new Model 3 LR-AWD variant is listed as 310+/325+ pending formal EPA Certification. It will likely be higher. Historically Tesla has improved the range of the Model 3 LR-AWD over time. Hopefully with further refinement the range will improve. 05/20/18: 310...
  34. GenSao

    Price drop on Model 3 Performance of 1k - now 52,999 [posted on 04.07.2023]

    Pretty close. Intro price was $78K. No once paid that price as it was reduced to $69K; including the initially mandatory “Performance Upgrade Package” which later were optional. Later on the “Performance Upgrade Package” was included in the $64K price. I debated on how to show it on the...
  35. GenSao

    Model 3 LR not currently available to order (USA) [posted 08.12.2022 --Its back! 05.02.2023]

    Good guess. As the base Model 3 (previously SR+) is back to it's $40K price point in early 2020, I see the LR-AWD variant matching the late 2020 price of $47K (a $3K drop). This would be a reasonable $6K price difference between the Model 3 AWD and P. Recently it was a $5K price difference...
  36. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    Indeed. The Model Y LR-AWD is below the original release price and near the lowest price of $49K from February to March of 2021. Link to data. Edit: Added Model 3 chart.
  37. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    The EPA website is updated and shows the correct information. https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxcenter.shtml
  38. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    Indeed. See below graph for historical pricing. Link to data and other charts.
  39. GenSao

    Another round of price cut?

    Here is a historical graph from 2019. Link to Data and other charts. Similar trims are combined for simplicity.
  40. GenSao

    Another price drop

    Indeed. There is room for one more $5,000 price cut. Link to Data
  41. GenSao

    DPReview, owned by Amazon, is closing April 10; people can request downloads of photos or texts they uploaded to the site until April 6

    @cwerdna Thank you. Quite sad. I used them quite a bit for their camera comparisons.
  42. GenSao

    another $5k drop

    The graph is correct. Please note, trims of similar level are combined over time for simplicity. The lowest price for a new Model S was $69,420 before the refresh in January 2021. https://www.teslarati.com/teslas-model-s-vs-lucid-price/ After the refresh, the lowest price was $79,990 until...
  43. GenSao

    Model X price cuts- yet again

    Here is the Model X base price history over the past 5 years. The lowest price a new LR Model X was $79,990 in late 2020 before the refresh. Link to data.
  44. GenSao

    another $5k drop

    Here is an updated Tesla Model S base price history over the past 5 years. Link to data.
  45. GenSao

    Model 3 price dropped by $500 [02.03.2023]

    Do note: if waiting for a refresh (or redesign), there will likely be a price increase. See the price jump for the Model S in early 2021 with the refresh announcement. If HW4 (and EAP or FSD) is important, then waiting may be ok. If price, then now may a good time to buy. The Standard...
  46. GenSao

    Powerwalls and Gateway

    The US Manual is also available and has it listed in Table 9 (below). Link to Manual https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/powerwall/Powerwall_2_AC_GW2_NA_EN_Installation_Manual.pdf The manual and videos can be found publicly at...
  47. GenSao

    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    Indeed. In the 3Q of 2021 Tesla incrementally increased the price every two weeks.