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The J3400 spec doesn't include the CAN style comms that current wall connectors (and I think mobile connectors) use before falling back to J1772, so I expect they will use straight J1772 signalling.My question that is sort of related to this topic:
Will the new 2025 other brand cars with NACS ports just work seamlessly with the existing Tesla mobile cables that I have? (And Tesla wall connectors?) I would expect probably? They would somehow negotiate down to using the J1772 protocol for level 2 over NACS plug, wouldn't they?
There are CCS2(same protocol as CCS1 with a better plug) cars charging on V2s here in Australia. So there is presumably an upgrade available. There have been some issues here with different CCS2 cars and Tesla chargers though not consistently. On the open chargers some will charge on V2 but not V3 and I think vice versa and some charge on both with no issue.It’s a little more complex than that. Some, maybe all, V3 SCs still require a hardware upgrade to support non Teslas.
It’s not as simple as V3 works with any car, V2 is Tesla only.
That’s why I said it’s not clear if V2s are actually hard to retrofit or if Tesla is just choosing not.
As far as I can tell, the hardware upgrades to the V3 are to allow plug and charge. Presumably the V3s already have the CCS hardware otherwise (so if using the app based authorization they would have worked).It’s a little more complex than that. Some, maybe all, V3 SCs still require a hardware upgrade to support non Teslas.
It’s not as simple as V3 works with any car, V2 is Tesla only.
That’s why I said it’s not clear if V2s are actually hard to retrofit or if Tesla is just choosing not.
Tesla had CCS2 / Modified Type 2 dual head superchargers for Europe since before V3 even existed:There are CCS2(same protocol as CCS1 with a better plug) cars charging on V2s here in Australia. So there is presumably an upgrade available. There have been some issues here with different CCS2 cars and Tesla chargers though not consistently. On the open chargers some will charge on V2 but not V3 and I think vice versa and some charge on both with no issue.
Also note that all Tesla superchargers here have attached CCS2 cables. There is no NACS, instead older V2s have a modified type 2 for legacy Teslas as well as a CCS2.