Johnny Vector
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[Jayne Cobb voice] ...I might...?The great thing about this thread is that it shows that nobody is buying an electric car to save the environment
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[Jayne Cobb voice] ...I might...?The great thing about this thread is that it shows that nobody is buying an electric car to save the environment
Why even post something like this?The great thing about this thread is that it shows that nobody is buying an electric car to save the environment
Because everyone here is dreaming of performance, luxury EVsWhy even post something like this?
A flip to EVs over gas cars could save $1.2 trillion in health costs and stop nearly 3 million asthma attacks: American Lung Association
A transition to zero-emission autos would have a dramatic impact on asthma attacks and other expensive health issues, the American Lung Association says.www.marketwatch.com
And that means what? It seems to me you're trying to imply agendas here and its not welcome.Because everyone here is dreaming of performance, luxury EVs
By ruined, do you mean you no longer like the "old school button and knob interiors"? When my best friend became an early adopter of the M3 5 years ago, I thought that I would hate the minimalist design and the everything-thru-center-screen approach. But when I bought my '21 MYLR, I found myself loving it on the first day. There is no learning curve. And it felt so liberating to be a part of the change rather than holding onto the old. I'm fortunate that my MY hasn't been in the SC at all in 10 months, and I didn't need to drive my backup car (hybrid) that has all the physical buttons you can think of.The Tesla interior has sort of ruined me on old-school, button and knob centric, interiors.
No, it's a good thing. The sad fact is most people aren't willing to make even the most minor sacrifice to stop the world from burning if they don't see the effects immediately. (And a substantial fraction not even then.) Our only hope lies in making it clear that a carbon-free future is better all around. So it's good to see that happening.And that means what? It seems to me you're trying to imply agendas here and its not welcome.
I'm the exact opposite. I wrangle with the new environment controls every time I drive. I miss the old UI layout (Version 7). I'm constantly fighting the NAV now. I hate how they've messed up supercharging. (25 minutes to continue the trip, or did I miss that and we're now 25 minutes to hit full and we're just wasting time? No easy way to tell anymore.)The Tesla interior has sort of ruined me on old-school, button and knob centric, interiors.
I disagree. They'll make minor sacrifices. What constitutes minor varies by person.No, it's a good thing. The sad fact is most people aren't willing to make even the most minor sacrifice to stop the world from burning if they don't see the effects immediately. (And a substantial fraction not even then.) Our only hope lies in making it clear that a carbon-free future is better all around. So it's good to see that happening.
I had a 2018 X5 40e. Would not recommend. Yes nice closing doors (got the soft close) but all sorts of electrical issues --had to plug in all the time for the 15 miles of e- range. Got better overall gas mileage than my Prius and was a solid hefty car but so far I'm waaaaaay happier with my Tesla Y...most of its electrical glitches work out on its own, didn't have to keep taking back to dealership for diagnostics and software upgrade... I think tax credit was around $5k but MSRP was higher than my Tesla but with discount maybe about the same. Also apple carplay and surround view didn't always work!!! I did test drive the 2021/2022 BMWs that were loaners since I was taking car in a lot towards the end and I would say the CarPlay and surround view was much improved in the more recent BMWs.I agree with everything you said, I was actually looking at the X5e as a compromise but I think I want all electric. It'll be even more enticing if it offers the $7,500 tax rebate.
My first car was an 87 Camry 5MT. It was a rust bucket, but was more fun to drive then it had any right to. I still kinda miss it. And yes, it had far better climate controls then V11I'm the exact opposite. I wrangle with the new environment controls every time I drive. I miss the old UI layout (Version 7). I'm constantly fighting the NAV now. I hate how they've messed up supercharging. (25 minutes to continue the trip, or did I miss that and we're now 25 minutes to hit full and we're just wasting time? No easy way to tell anymore.)
My next car of any kind must have physical controls for important functions and an interface that won't be changed and degraded over time. If none of the new cars have that, I guess I'm in the market for 1987 Camry.
Use the savings wisely....get the white interiorDealers asking 7K above MSRP is what drove me away from the Hyundai Ioniq 5. After being disgusted by the greedy bloodsuckers. I ordered the Model 3 LR. I will save over $7,500 from what the Ioniq 5 would have cost me even after the Federal Rebate.
Oh my savings are going into the Acceleration Boost.Use the savings wisely....get the white interior