Luckily anyone is free to leave at any time! Some chose to stay in just to complain about not leaving …..It sure is. Question; is it worth the effort, stress, aggregation and loss of $15,000? Rhetorical question, of course.
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Luckily anyone is free to leave at any time! Some chose to stay in just to complain about not leaving …..It sure is. Question; is it worth the effort, stress, aggregation and loss of $15,000? Rhetorical question, of course.
One reason I am aware of seems to be that it wants to see adequate lane markings "right now" in view. So, for example, driving down a four-lane road with a substantial median the "you can engage now" icon will be up between intersections, but disappear for a couple of seconds while passing through. You might think it is just being clever about not inviting you to start in an intersection, but I think the availability of markings hypothesis fits better to my observations.
Actually, you can’t leave and get your $15,000 back.Luckily anyone is free to leave at any time! Some chose to stay in just to complain about not leaving …..
You can't leave? Get out of town.........Actually, you can’t leave
Sorry to quote myself but the below sounds more knowledgeable.Based on watching various YT's, seems this latest 11.3.4 has stricter engage criteria.
What I noticed is that the Autosteer icon disappears on rural surface streets. It will flash ons for half a second, then disappear again. If I'm quick enough and press the button to engage at just the right time, it enables and drives just fine. I'm on 2022.45.12 (FSD 11.3.3). It did not do this on the previous 10.x release
"safety" is much more a concern than others when I am using FSD.You can't leave? Get out of town.........
No seriously, every time I see that $15,000 quote I realize how my buy at $6000 affects my expectations. For me, with 60k miles on NOA, I got my return on investment early on in 2019, the rest is just entertainment. Driving me weekly back and forth to work, at 150 miles one way, for years, paid that off long ago. Wouldn't be even close to the same vehicle without that software. And it's gotten better and better over that time, bonus. But If I pain 15k just to play with in town, different story.......
I think safety has been the Achilles heal of beta. Most of the hard stops, phantom braking, dumb moves have likely been a by product of the car trying to be too safe and goes against the overall goal. For example, some of the old builds would hard brake when you were driving in a residential neighborhood at slow speeds and a frigging pedestrian is on the sidewalk 30 ft from the road. Absolutely no danger to that person, but brake away baby.."safety" is much more a concern than others when I am using FSD.
I think safety has been the Achilles heal of beta. Most of the hard stops, phantom braking, dumb moves have likely been a by product of the car trying to be too safe and goes against the overall goal. For example, some of the old builds would hard brake when you were driving in a residential neighborhood at slow speeds and a frigging pedestrian is on the sidewalk 30 ft from the road. Absolutely no danger to that person, but brake away baby..
It gets better, though some find it hard to believe with each release. Man, V 10.2 would hard brake for a person on a bike 3 miles away!I have also noticed this phenomenon. Moreover, when bicycles are traveling in the same direction on the same side of the road, Tesla deliberately slows down, which is unnecessary.
But I believe the performance in the next version will be better.
Luckily anyone is free to leave at any time! Some chose to stay in just to complain about not leaving …..
Exactly.My favorite are those that chose to complain about people complaining.
I think someone mentioned a bit earlier or maybe in another thread driving too close to the roadway edge disables the option of enabling FSD. Chuck Cook noticed it recently in one of his videos.Sorry to quote myself but the below sounds more knowledgeable.
I also get it when driving on a particular road near me. Two lanes, divided by a double yellow line, with white road edge lines. Almost a perfect road - but I suspect that the lane is considered too narrow by FSD. It will drive on it if engaged beforehand, but if disengaged will not reengage until I reach a part of the road where the road surface widens. Easily repeatable.I think someone mentioned a bit earlier or maybe in another thread driving too close to the roadway edge disables the option of enabling FSD. Chuck Cook noticed it recently in one of his videos.
It was worth $6K to me 5 years ago and $7K 3 years ago but I would never pay anything close to $15K - would subscribe for trips though.It sure is. Question; is it worth the effort, stress, aggregation and loss of $15,000? Rhetorical question, of course.
Ditto for me, had no trouble with fairly heavy rain but got the warning.It does. You just get the “FSD maybe degraded sue to poor weather” message. I drove in some pretty heavy rain Friday, and it worked fine.
Not sure what I paid in August 2021... $7000? Not sure. Whatever it was, it was too much. Paid $5000 for it in 2019, when I had the 3. Paid zero for it when I got my MPY. Fool me one, fool me twice, bit not three times!It was worth $6K to me 5 years ago and $7K 3 years ago but I would never pay anything close to $15K - would subscribe for trips though.