MarcG - congrats! Can you take a pic of the new vanity mirrors and chargeport door mechanism? Also, curious, what software is it running? If you press the Tesla icon at the top of the screen, it should say at the bottom the software version.
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Tracking P85D delivery thread
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MarcG
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MarkG, I'm pretty sure you live in the same neighborhood as my sister-in-law. The car looks absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing with us.
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I think it is pretty clear that the first few cars to go through the line had problems above and beyond the seat issue and that they are having to manually correct them. I think that is the only reasonable explanation for the long delays for the original cars to get out of production while new cars are sailing through the process. It would be nice to get some clarity on that and to have a better idea of what the timeline is to get things checked out, but I figure it is just part of the potential pain of being an early adopter. I do agree that if we can't get the cars delivered in 2014, it might make a lot more sense to cancel and re-order to get a 2015 VIN and potential upgrades like the heated wheels.
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I think it is pretty clear that the first few cars to go through the line had problems above and beyond the seat issue and that they are having to manually correct them. I think that is the only reasonable explanation for the long delays for the original cars to get out of production while new cars are sailing through the process. It would be nice to get some clarity on that and to have a better idea of what the timeline is to get things checked out, but I figure it is just part of the potential pain of being an early adopter. I do agree that if we can't get the cars delivered in 2014, it might make a lot more sense to cancel and re-order to get a 2015 VIN and potential upgrades like the heated wheels.
I'm probably going to have to stop looking at this thread/forum for a while now that there are details from a delivery. I'm actually getting a bit angry about it and I really don't want to be angry over this. My car being in production on the first day, still not being done, still no ETA, yet at least one someone who ordered two weeks after me, as well as went into production after me, already has their car? Seriously, WTF Tesla. heh. Too frustrating.
No offense MarcG! I really am glad you have your car! It just makes no sense to me that you have yours in hand before I even have an ETA on mine when I (and others) ordered weeks before you... this is Tesla's fault, not yours, and it really isn't excusable.
Add to that, I was going over some financials and I'll almost definitely have to cancel if it turns out that I can't get the car in 2014. It will come out to nearly $19,000 additional costs if I don't get it in 2014, and this purchase is already more than I wanted to spend short-term on random not-really-needed items. Adding another $19,000 to the price on top of taking an additional financial hit on the trade for the extra miles I'm putting on my P85 while I wait is just not going to be worth it to me. Pretty frustrating that there are cars being delivered, yet I can't even get an ETA on mine that went into production on day 1, three weeks ago.
(Financial details: So, it's either take delivery this year and pay $133,470 minus $7500 credit + 0% sales tax for a net of $125,970; or take delivery in January or later, pay $133470, pay 7.5% sales tax of $10,010.25, plus a $1,388.09 vehicle property tax for 2015 for a total of $144,868.34; net difference of $18,898.34 additional cost. Can't get the federal tax credit next year; moving out of NJ so I'll lose the NJ sales tax exemption sometime in January. The 2015 vehicle tax I'll have to pay anyway, but it will be prorated and payable at the end of the year otherwise)
I've sent over the details of my 12/31 deadline to my DS, including my intent to cancel if I can't take delivery by then... not that I think it will matter.
Edit: Looks like the Tesla isn't even on the NJ list of cars that qualify for the sales tax exemption anyway?! (http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/pdf/Treasury2015ModelYearZEVlisting.pdf)
No offense MarcG! I really am glad you have your car! It just makes no sense to me that you have yours in hand before I even have an ETA on mine when I (and others) ordered weeks before you... this is Tesla's fault, not yours, and it really isn't excusable.
Add to that, I was going over some financials and I'll almost definitely have to cancel if it turns out that I can't get the car in 2014. It will come out to nearly $19,000 additional costs if I don't get it in 2014, and this purchase is already more than I wanted to spend short-term on random not-really-needed items. Adding another $19,000 to the price on top of taking an additional financial hit on the trade for the extra miles I'm putting on my P85 while I wait is just not going to be worth it to me. Pretty frustrating that there are cars being delivered, yet I can't even get an ETA on mine that went into production on day 1, three weeks ago.
(Financial details: So, it's either take delivery this year and pay $133,470 minus $7500 credit + 0% sales tax for a net of $125,970; or take delivery in January or later, pay $133470, pay 7.5% sales tax of $10,010.25, plus a $1,388.09 vehicle property tax for 2015 for a total of $144,868.34; net difference of $18,898.34 additional cost. Can't get the federal tax credit next year; moving out of NJ so I'll lose the NJ sales tax exemption sometime in January. The 2015 vehicle tax I'll have to pay anyway, but it will be prorated and payable at the end of the year otherwise)
I've sent over the details of my 12/31 deadline to my DS, including my intent to cancel if I can't take delivery by then... not that I think it will matter.
Edit: Looks like the Tesla isn't even on the NJ list of cars that qualify for the sales tax exemption anyway?! (http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/pdf/Treasury2015ModelYearZEVlisting.pdf)
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breser
AutoPilot Nostradamus
I know the lack of communication is frustrating. Been there done that got the merit badge (as the saying goes). But you surely know that Tesla was probably going to deliver to someone in California before you regardless right?
I hope you get some good news next week that lowers your level of frustration.
First, you win.
Second, you may want to look at the sales tax rules of the state you're moving to. Many states have a 12 month rule that says if you move into the state and want to register a car that was purchased less than 12 months prior, they collect the sales tax difference between the two states. Since NJ is 0%, that would likely be calculated as the full tax due in the second state.
same here, only a hat....but i recently got a Tesla Corp Jacket since they left me in the dark about my s85 trade-in for about 2 weeks with no info.....Tesla rep explained to me that if i see a fellow Tesla owner with the corp jacket it's usually a "lesson learned" gift
Of course, I just figured they would delivery to someone in California who at least ordered on the same day as me not someone who ordered and paid their deposit over two weeks after me. At that rate I should have had the car a week before they took delivery...
Well, the problem is that I've heard "next week" more than once through this, and then "next week" comes and it just gets pushed to "next week" again. *sigh* So, I'm not optimistic about "next week"'s news.
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The scenario is definitely worst case. Best case for a 2015 delivery is I just lose out of the $7500 credit, which still in itself isn't acceptable to me since I was quoted December delivery. If not for that, I would not have purchased. $7500 is still 5.6% of the total cost of the car alone.
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Well, I call/email for updates. I don't get any volunteered.
breser
AutoPilot Nostradamus
They have been for a while. Not sure when it went into production but sometime after September. In the discussion about the seats someplace, someone in Europe mentioned they had these taller headrests on their backseat.
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I'm sure it's a common "oops" gift. But anyone can buy one either on their website or in one of the stores.
http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/outerwear/products/men-s-new-corp-jacket-black
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