So I’m starting this thread as more of a work in progress to help people size their solar/powerwall to be able to run off grid for extended times. In my case I have an on grid system, but I live in Florida and there is a real possibility of multi day power outages after hurricanes.
To keep things (somewhat) less complicated I’m not looking to discuss sizing an on grid solar only system or a solar/powerwall system that’s only intended to cover short outages. I’d like to keep this thread focused on systems that are completely off grid or can be run off grid for extended times (several days or more)
So, all that said, I think these are the things that you need to consider as you try to size your off grid capable system. Some of these points will probably be more obvious than others.
To start with you need to figure out the bare minimum size for your solar/powerwall system based on your daily usage.
-At a minimum your powerwalls need to have enough capacity to support your house from sundown to sunup. You’ll need at least enough capacity to get through the night when your solar system isn’t producing power. The good news here is that typically your house will use less power at night... everyone is asleep so lights and devices are off.
-At a minimum your solar system needs to have enough capacity to cover your entirely daily usage (both daytime and night time usage). The solar system needs to be able to provide enough power to your house to cover your power demand during the day while the sun is shining in addition to being able to fully charge your powerwalls so they will be ready to go when the sun goes back down.
Now, in a perfect world, that would be enough, but this isn’t a perfect world, and this is where things get more tricky. You’ll need to oversize your systems for the following reasons:
-There will be days where it’s somewhat cloudy or rainy and you want your solar system to be able to meet your entire daily power need even in less than perfect conditions.
-The solar system will produce less power during the winter than it will in the summer. Luckily (unless you have electric heat) your house will probably have a lower power demand in the winter, so that will offset the lower production to some extent. However, you need to make sure that the solar system will still meet your daily power need even during the lowest production times.
-There will be times when your powerwalls will be used to cover more than just your nightly power usage, so you need extra capacity in your solar system to be able to recharge your powerwalls even when they have been drained more than normal.
-You will need extra capacity in your powerwalls because there will be days where it’s very cloudy or rainy and even with an oversized solar system you won’t be able to generate enough power to cover your usage for that day. The powerwalls will need to take up the slack on those days.
So all that said, I would consider the following to try to figure out what size of a system to get.
Look at your usage history to try to figure out your average usage in each season. Look at the daily usage as well as nightly (sundown to sunup usage). You can use these numbers to establish a baseline.
Then consider the worst case scenario. Do you live in a climate where you might get heavy rain or snow for 4 or 5 days in a row? Or do you typically have good weather, then you might have a bad storm one day, then good weather again the next day?
If you could potentially have very low or no solar generation for several days then you need to make sure that you have a lot of capacity in your powerwalls to carry you through those times. You’ll need to size your powerwalls to be able to cover several days worth of your daily power draw and you’ll need to add a lot of extra capacity to your solar system to be able to recharge this huge powerwall system after it has been used for several days. (You don’t need a monster solar system that can recharge it all in one day... it might take a few days to be able to fully charge it, but you don’t want your solar system to be so small in that it takes a month to get your powerwalls charged again after a few days with little solar power).
On the other hand if you are only likely to have low or no solar generation for a day or part of a day, then you can size your powerwalls such that they are able to cover your daily power draw for a full day or two. Again, you’ll want your solar system to be sized such that it can recharge the powerwalls within a couple of days even when they have been drained way down.
Hopefully this information has been helpful to someone and I’d be happy to hear any suggestions or comments or other factors that are worth considering.
To keep things (somewhat) less complicated I’m not looking to discuss sizing an on grid solar only system or a solar/powerwall system that’s only intended to cover short outages. I’d like to keep this thread focused on systems that are completely off grid or can be run off grid for extended times (several days or more)
So, all that said, I think these are the things that you need to consider as you try to size your off grid capable system. Some of these points will probably be more obvious than others.
To start with you need to figure out the bare minimum size for your solar/powerwall system based on your daily usage.
-At a minimum your powerwalls need to have enough capacity to support your house from sundown to sunup. You’ll need at least enough capacity to get through the night when your solar system isn’t producing power. The good news here is that typically your house will use less power at night... everyone is asleep so lights and devices are off.
-At a minimum your solar system needs to have enough capacity to cover your entirely daily usage (both daytime and night time usage). The solar system needs to be able to provide enough power to your house to cover your power demand during the day while the sun is shining in addition to being able to fully charge your powerwalls so they will be ready to go when the sun goes back down.
Now, in a perfect world, that would be enough, but this isn’t a perfect world, and this is where things get more tricky. You’ll need to oversize your systems for the following reasons:
-There will be days where it’s somewhat cloudy or rainy and you want your solar system to be able to meet your entire daily power need even in less than perfect conditions.
-The solar system will produce less power during the winter than it will in the summer. Luckily (unless you have electric heat) your house will probably have a lower power demand in the winter, so that will offset the lower production to some extent. However, you need to make sure that the solar system will still meet your daily power need even during the lowest production times.
-There will be times when your powerwalls will be used to cover more than just your nightly power usage, so you need extra capacity in your solar system to be able to recharge your powerwalls even when they have been drained more than normal.
-You will need extra capacity in your powerwalls because there will be days where it’s very cloudy or rainy and even with an oversized solar system you won’t be able to generate enough power to cover your usage for that day. The powerwalls will need to take up the slack on those days.
So all that said, I would consider the following to try to figure out what size of a system to get.
Look at your usage history to try to figure out your average usage in each season. Look at the daily usage as well as nightly (sundown to sunup usage). You can use these numbers to establish a baseline.
Then consider the worst case scenario. Do you live in a climate where you might get heavy rain or snow for 4 or 5 days in a row? Or do you typically have good weather, then you might have a bad storm one day, then good weather again the next day?
If you could potentially have very low or no solar generation for several days then you need to make sure that you have a lot of capacity in your powerwalls to carry you through those times. You’ll need to size your powerwalls to be able to cover several days worth of your daily power draw and you’ll need to add a lot of extra capacity to your solar system to be able to recharge this huge powerwall system after it has been used for several days. (You don’t need a monster solar system that can recharge it all in one day... it might take a few days to be able to fully charge it, but you don’t want your solar system to be so small in that it takes a month to get your powerwalls charged again after a few days with little solar power).
On the other hand if you are only likely to have low or no solar generation for a day or part of a day, then you can size your powerwalls such that they are able to cover your daily power draw for a full day or two. Again, you’ll want your solar system to be sized such that it can recharge the powerwalls within a couple of days even when they have been drained way down.
Hopefully this information has been helpful to someone and I’d be happy to hear any suggestions or comments or other factors that are worth considering.