Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[M|S|M MYP]

It's for the greater good - Thank you for your service.

I've been here before. This is the part where I get low on reserves, the market recedes more, then 6 months later I have to sell some shares at that lower price to meet life's needs. So, as much as I want to keep doing this, I think I need to tell myself (and write it down) to be careful and keep a reserve this time. The economy is not stable globally, the pressure is not off, and the entire legacy automotive industry is in a deep nose dive. Some estimate 14 Million employees world-wide, 3M here in the US (per chat so there's that). It's not all ICE, but layoffs keep happening, everywhere. And that's not even talking about the oil industry.

I still might grab a few more, maybe 10 for the win... Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Ive said it once and ill say it again...Not all heroes wear capes!

 

[GOVA]

Meanwhile, BTC has reached ATH.

 

[Skryll]

OT: Last post for the arson attack that destroyed the power supply of Giga Berlin. I've got the complete Letter of confession of the extremists now. This is part of it:
Shut down volcano group Tesla! : Attack on power supply
We sabotaged Tesla today. Because Tesla in Grünau eats up earth, resources, people, manpower and spits out 6000 SUVś, killer machines and monster trucks per week. Our gift for March 8 is to shut down Tesla.
Because the complete destruction of the Gigafactory and with it the cutting off of "techno-fascists" like Elend Musk are a step on the path to liberation from patriarchy.
...
With our sabotage, we have set ourselves the greatest possible blackout of the Gigafactory as our goal. We have ruled out endangering our lives and the lives of others. The shutdown of production in the automotive industry is the beginning of the end of a world of destruction. Our bonfire of liberation was aimed at supplying Tesla with electricity. We wanted to hit the overhead line of a high-voltage pylon in the connection to the underground cables at the watertight cable sleeves and short-circuit the six 110 kV cables inside. To do this, we opened the shaft to the cable joints, half of which was under water. We still flamed the exposed power cables and, in combination with the water, may have caused a short circuit. Damage to cable joints is often time-consuming and expensive to repair. At the same time, we set the fire large and high with lots of car tires to weaken the steel structure and cause the mast to become unstable.
A steel mast only melts at around 1300 -1500 degrees. As we were working with a heat development of around 900 degrees, the aim was to change the mechanical properties of the mast. As a steel structure under load, a rapid, large fire from 500 degrees upwards can lead to a loss of strength and change the stiffness, yield strength and elasticity of the metal. This can lead to buckling effects, twisting or deflection. That was our intention.
...
FYI: March 8 is international womens day. They never write Elon, "Elend" is german and means miserable. The complete text covers Starlink, refers to Nazis, Imperialism, Teslas with Samsung cameras, accidents at GIGA, lack of Unions, and much more.

So detailed instructions for copycats included. Sounds like professional sabotage work, not environmental nerdery.

 

[Cult Member]

Latest update from the electricity supplier in Berlin. Unfortunately without expected completion date.
4 PM MEZ (one hour ago)
E.DIS emergency services are still on site and, together with partner companies, are preparing to repair the damaged section of the high-voltage pylon. The damage site itself is currently still secured. After approval by the responsible investigating authorities, the high-voltage pylon will be assessed by structural engineers. This will determine when the damaged pylon can be released for repair work. Once this approval has been granted, an E.DIS partner company specializing in cable and overhead line crossings will carry out an assessment and determine the next work steps.

 

[Buckminster]

24 hours to go if you haven't voted:
Poll: Let's build the Redwood Compact Crossover

 

[Cult Member]

So detailed instructions for copycats included. Sounds like professional sabotage work, not environmental nerdery.

Because they were so sure that none of them would be harmed, an employee of the electricity supplier could have been the source of information.
Interesting that they mixed Grünheide with Grünau, that's on the other side of Berlin. That wouldn't happen to a local.

 

[geometro]

It doesn't seem like a fire (while disastrous) should lead to such a lower SP.... especially after yesterday, which also made little sense.

 

[AnbaricBike]

C3 photosythesis is 2% efficient. Currently available solar panels are 20% efficient. That means you need 10x the land to grow algae to get the same amount of energy from solar panels.

Algae is not even close to competitive with solar, but it is a distraction which is all big carbon needs to create doubt/delay with the PR wars. And every time people repeat their nonsence claims without critical review they win a little bit more time for their 'stranded assets': carbon.

Also, NOx.

 

[Krugerrand]

I'm so confused...Tesla has billions in cash, so why does every factory not have enough solar/battery storage for outages like this?

Their plate is overflowing, sir. Surely you understand this? Surely!? They can’t do everything, everywhere at once.

I’m confused that you’re confused.

 

[SmokyPeat]

To everyone who objected; true, the times have changed. Still each of my examples generated severe reactions contemporaneously, perhaps von Braun and Ford the most. We they to have lived today I suspect none but, perhaps, Einstein, could have survived the onslaught.

Elon Musk has the unique disadvantage to be challenging the established interests in multiple areas simultaneously . Then of course social media cuts multiple ways for him.

Bill Gates seems to be doing alright. I really don't think that either Gates or Einstein belong in that grouping of heavily flawed persons. As someone who once had nothing but tremendous respect for Elon, it's extraordinarily painful to watch him spiral.

 

[Todd Burch]

It doesn't seem like a fire (while disastrous) should lead to such a lower SP.... especially after yesterday, which also made little sense.

When is the last time the market was rational?

Tesla will lose a few day's production....a few thousand cars. A blip. Hopefully they catch the people and they spend the rest of their lives miserably rotting in prison as Brutus, their new cellmate, makes friends with them in more ways than they'd anticipated.

 

[Krugerrand]

Best price is now $182.898. Anyone? Hey, it's not a contest. (Waiting for my other buying friends to wake up... Hello!!!)

I'm in this whole run, and again this AM for 25 more. Can't keep doing this...

View attachment 1024831

NOBODY will say the word for me.

 

[Webeevdrivers]

Going forward, knowing it’s operating a factory in a hostile environment in germany, I wonder if there is a path to autonomous power supply thru a combination of solar, wind, large diesel or natural gas turbines. Might be a worthwhile investment.

Just sayin.

 

[SOULPEDL]

NOBODY will say the word for me.

Well by all means, help yourself to some of your own.

 

[SO16]

Haha, you could also have watched that video in this thread when I posted it here on Friday after the Close: (how'd you miss it?)

#446,259 Spoiler: The power of math to model finacial markets | Veritasium

The problem with "trading" is that you actually make things worse for everyone: worse for others if you gain, worse for you if you lose. Options aren't even a zero-sum game where losses=gains because the croupiers always takes their rake (options market makers own this casino).

If you feel that 'making money' is equivalent to trading stock, I suggest you're one of the 99% who will end up paying for the gains of the 1% who become even more motivated to cheat because they know your hand, and are playing with house money (counterfeit shares sanctioned by SEC rule 201).

Hint: this battle isn't about money, or TSLA, or even Elon: it's about who controls the political economy, and what they are willing to do to prevent losing control. You are witnessing that in real time this morning: Eco-terrorism sponsored by the enemies of the renewable transition, all the while denying it in cleverly-crafted PR releases. If you don't have the stomach for that fight, I suggest you are sitting at the wrong table.

I must have missed your post with that video. Sorry. Or maybe that’s how I originally found it. I don’t recall. I thought it just showed on my YT feed since I am subscribed to that channel.

Just marked your video post as informative.

 

[M|S|M MYP]

I get it... but this is good, I'm getting my shares back that I sold up higher. I only need to manage the longer cycles. Pure HODL is boring.

You're only wrong if you sell at a lower price than you bought.

 

[Krugerrand]

Well by all means, help yourself to some of your own.

Can’t. It’s the rules. I know, I’m a little hostile about rules. Just not my own. Someone has to say it and mean it.

On the plus side, this shutdown in Germany will help inventory numbers for quarter’s end. Right?

 

[SOULPEDL]

On the plus side, this shutdown in Germany will help inventory numbers for quarter’s end. Right?

And grow spare parts too!

 

[FreqFlyer]

I get it... but this is good, I'm getting my shares back that I sold up higher. I only need to manage the longer cycles. Pure HODL is boring.

You just watched the Eddie Murphy's movie Trading Places? Didn't you?

 

[Singuy]

I'll repeat the cautionary stock market maxim: Never try to catch a falling knife.

To expand on that, if you were wrong at $200 and $190, what makes you think you're right at $180?

This is the wrong logic. Since there's a bottom to these things and no one has a crystal ball, you are always more right at 180 than 190 or 200.