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All great points ... but i am still waiting for TSLA to go on sale before adding to my long position... time will tell if this is a smart move...
no one on this board has convinced me otherwise ... i do need to increase my purchase price points on my limit orders to reflect last couple months ... still kicking myself for not going all in back in March /early April .. we will probably never see those prices again
my SP Model for YE 2020 is $650-$750 range so I will hold fast till we see this range again
assuming taxes are not a concern, what would you say is the difference between not going in and selling at this moment? Are you saying the current risk:reward isn't worth it? Wanted to see what you think, not trying to argue.Going all in at this point is pretty unwise. Even the pie in the sky scenario at $3000 only brings you about 3x (or 6x at the low of this year) return. That is not enough, in my opinion, as a risk/reward ratio to go all in. It was good enough to risk 25% of your net worth to gain 25% though. I've just tallied all my trades recently as I am doing taxes and realized that even through very conservative trades and cost averaging down (then up along the V). PPL should be able to increase their net worth by 25%.
This spat with Bezos again looks very bad for Elon. The last thing we need is more evidence that he’s being taken in by Coronavirus conspiracy theories. Undoubtedly Amazon had very good reasons for suppressing dangerous disinformation during a Global Pandemic, and it is incredibly disturbing to see more evidence of Elon being taken in by these anti-Science conspiracy theories, and criticizing a public service by Amazon in quelling the disinformation.
please do not reply here. If anything, please reply in the coronavirus thread. We do not need to go down a rat hole, but it is very important for investors to be aware of something this important.
assuming taxes are not a concern, what would you say is the difference between not going in and selling at this moment? Are you saying the current risk:reward isn't worth it? Wanted to see what you think, not trying to argue.
That will not continue to be a good strategy. If you are counting on winning the short term game to live, you probably should not be in the market, IMOSimply put, I am in long for the majority of my Tesla stake, but play the short term patterns with a smaller percentage for operating expenses. Working well so far and plan to continue.
For an all in risk play... Ya, the risk reward ratio is not good enough. But at the same time, going all in should only be a viable strategy when your net worth is below a certain point. I am conservative, so going all in should only be done at below 200k. There are ppl who manages to still go all in and win at million+ net worth, I am not that person. The variable is that my definition of going all in is when you risk the value going to 0. And for a chance that you lose it all, a 3x reward is not worth it as it can be easily achieved by starting a business.
That will not continue to be a good strategy. If you are counting on winning the short term game to live, you probably should not be in the market, IMO
Some concrete progress in GigaBerlin:
oh well i am conservative in my models i guess.. you need to have a realistic model for your own estimates we don't have to agree ... there is a lot of uncertainty but this is where i am at right now ... i dont try to time the market per se ... i try to buy at bargain prices ... which the market irrationally gives us from time to time ...So to get to those numbers, which I think Tesla will hit it in terms of vehicle P/D for 2020, Tesla will need to make and sell around 175k-200k in Q4. That's likely a quarter of revenue that will be 10-11 billion. Nearly double the revenue of Q1 with very likely higher margins in the same year.......Q1 in which the share price was higher than your 650-750 range for EOY 2020 share price.
Definitely everyone should have their own strategy for when they buy and such, but the logic doesn't add up there.
to clarify ...when i say all in I mean available cash on hand ... ~20% TSLA todayGoing all in at this point is pretty unwise. Even the pie in the sky scenario at $3000 only brings you about 3x (or 6x at the low of this year) return. That is not enough, in my opinion, as a risk/reward ratio to go all in. It was good enough to risk 25% of your net worth to gain 25% though. I've just tallied all my trades recently as I am doing taxes and realized that even through very conservative trades and cost averaging down (then up along the V). PPL should be able to increase their net worth by 25%.
nope .. never done options ... taking some classes now to refresh the strategies i learned in college ... possibly when i retire...i think you need to spend a lot of time on options .. not sure i want to spend my time that wayAre you selling slightly OTM weekly puts while you wait?
I know it’s only a one-time thing (stretched over about a year) but, given it’s well-known that the making of concrete is a huge contributor to greenhouse gases, I’m curious how much CO2 etc is being generated in order to build GigaBerlin. Has Tesla said anything?
to clarify ...when i say all in I mean available cash on hand ... ~20% TSLA today
I’m curious how much CO2 etc is being generated in order to build GigaBerlin.
Electrek - half hour ago: Tesla quietly acquired automated manufacturing firm to design factories - Electrek
Only 10 miles from where I live.