Didn’t they emphasize in the release announcement it (LDA/ELDA) was going to everyone regardless of whether they bought AP?
-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Tesla Software 2019.16.3
- Thread starter ibGeek
- Start date
-
- Tags
- software udpates
Didn’t they emphasize in the release announcement it (LDA/ELDA) was going to everyone regardless of whether they bought AP?
Uncle Don
Member
It certainly did nothing for me. Where you turn it on/off is under Autopilot on the screen. If it was for everybody it would be under safety.
Got the update a few hours ago. Took it out for a spin and everything is basically as expected.
SammichLover
Banned
That was my understanding, that’s in-line with their long-standing “safety features are baseline features” policy.
SammichLover
Banned
Can you see the option toggles?
Note, I haven’t found it easy to trigger it. So trying to trigger it on a quick drive isn’t a reliable way to see if it is there.
<edit> LDA probably is linked to AP, as per that video further up the thread. But that’s separate from ELDA.
Last edited:
i had auto correction on for the lane avoidance and it still let me change lanes without using the blinker... i didn’t notice a huge change other than the animation on the screen.. but the drive from work to home is only 10 minutes on roadways (not interstates) so i haven’t had a chance to really test it.
ord3r
Member
I've seen reports of it working on cars without autopilot, mostly by people who are pissed about it taking over the car and turning when they don't want it to.
Emergency lane departure almost caused a serious accident. : teslamotors
from that post: "I did not pay for Autopilot and do not want a car that takes control when I do not want it to."
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
I also have no AP, and I do have LDA and ELDA. It's just hard to activate; to me it feels like it's really only meant for scenarios where the driver is unconscious. LDA will activate when: 1. Your blinker isn't on. 2. You are not applying torque to the steering wheel. 3. Your car passes pretty far over a recognized lane line. I think ELDA has similar criteria, but also require sensing something hit-able you're drifting into.
I can understand why you think you don't have it, though. Reading some of the "false-positive" stories on here you'd think it activates every 30 seconds.
I’d be interested in seeing some TeslaCam video evidence from those that are experiencing recurring problems with this feature. Video is a lot easier to understand than a description.
I’d do so myself but at least so far, it hasn’t been a problem for me.
I’d do so myself but at least so far, it hasn’t been a problem for me.
mbdionio
Member
Took the car for a spin. This firmware is complaining a lot that I'm doing a lot of jack rabbit start.
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Alternatively, if your false-positive occurred because of a particular road feature, let us know what road so others can test it too. I'm curious to see how many of these issues come down to driving-style.
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Wait, what? You're getting warning messages about acceleration? No new features involve warning messages regarding acceleration...
mbdionio
Member
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Can you try and safely get a screenshot the next time it happens? Maybe a passenger can snap it? I've never heard of this before.
SammichLover
Banned
Weird thing is I’d put money down that I —did—signal my turn. I’m one of those people that probably overuse the turn signal, rather than miss a use, and it actually bothers me if I turn even modest turns without it.
Yes, out of habit I use the signal when maneuvering in the Autocross grid.
Not sure how that squares with intended ELDA behavior, if signsl turned of automatically mid turn from wheel use or something? Or I only 1/2 pressed and the 3-flash signal isn’t recognized by ELDA?
SammichLover
Banned
I got it somewhere during a 90 degree left turn through a 4-way intersection. No lines marking the road. Very unlikely that I didn’t signal.
Was entirely surprised, didn’t figure out until later what it was, so details are a bit foggy.
It is apparently far more complicated than it would seem. Many factors, including state laws, weather considerations, hardware and who knows.
