Drove for 10 miles. Car sat for 2.5 hrs and I come out to them happily running at 74%. Reminded me that even if the BMS is/has unwinded some of the range -- pumpgate and charge gate exist for some likely very good reason...
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Doesn't seem to. It'll charge to the set soc, stop charging, and immediately start draining. It can lose 5% before i get to it.For you pumpgate victims, do the pumps run constantly at a high SOC if the car is plugged in and the charge timer is off and the slider is set to roughly the current SOC? I.e do the pumps run and keep the battery at the same SOC with the car plugged in?
S 90 degradation fleet statistics: DegradationDoesn't address the V1 90pack degradation though, but it's a start! 248 Rated Miles @ 100% SOC no voltage cap. Pack capacity is 72.5 kWh. Vehicle has 101,000 Miles.
For you pumpgate victims, do the pumps run constantly at a high SOC if the car is plugged in and the charge timer is off and the slider is set to roughly the current SOC? I.e do the pumps run and keep the battery at the same SOC with the car plugged in?
Yes except I am NOT aware of any cars on this forum that even got close to loosing 30 percent range (I am at 10percent after 4 years/55k miles). I wonder what's better: Our warranties with Tesla saying it's all normal or the new one where it can't be disputed (they display the rated range)We know what they think is reasonable, the new warranties say 70% retention over 8 years.
Doesn't seem to. It'll charge to the set soc, stop charging, and immediately start draining. It can lose 5% before i get to it.
I keep looking forward to there being enough experience data so we can all know what to expect for real-world battery life. When I first purchased I knew this was a big experiment and was prepared for much worse. It seemed that range was holding up remarkably well over years, then with one update a huge drop.Yes except I am NOT aware of any cars on this forum that even got close to loosing 30 percent range (I am at 10percent after 4 years/55k miles). I wonder what's better: Our warranties with Tesla saying it's all normal or the new one where it can't be disputed (they display the rated range)
Either way Tesla will not have to replace many batteries.
How does this make any sense -- unless there is something fishy going on...?In my experience, the pumps run regardless of being plugged-in or not. I've also noticed, once or twice, that they run even when I charge to 50% on AC.
So you mean even though it's plugged in it can drain far below the charge setpoint????
How does this make any sense -- unless there is something fishy going on...?
yes, yes, yes.
Might be time to start thinking about a wired 12v disconnect switch for when you're parked at home.
Yes except I am NOT aware of any cars on this forum that even got close to loosing 30 percent range (I am at 10percent after 4 years/55k miles). I wonder what's better: Our warranties with Tesla saying it's all normal or the new one where it can't be disputed (they display the rated range)
Either way Tesla will not have to replace many batteries.
Thanks. How did you figure it out?You could have a brake dragging. That happened to me several years ago.
Same here. From March to May of 2019, I charged the car full and it showed 240 and 239 (max for 70D). in that same period, I drove it home once with 10 miles left and then charged it. So it would appear that I had the full range. Since then, I've rarely charged it full, and rarely dropped below 40, but in May 19, range was at 208 with absolutely not being able to charge past 205 not matter how long I left it plugged in. With some of the range miraculously "coming back", I'm at 228 - I actually did manage to charge to 227, not sure if it did charge to 228 and then it dropped due to normal drain, or it never got to 228. So my range has dropped in my opinion significantly during this hiatus, considering I haven't put that many miles on the car, and I've been pretty nice to the battery. If they indeed have raised the V limit back to pre 2019.16, then it would appear it is degradation.Line 195 "The real" (3 sentences) THIS is my problem with this issue. I HAD the range available prior to them “mitigating” it.
yes. Mine did usually to 78% no matter if charge point was set 80,90 or 100%So you mean even though it's plugged in it can drain far below the charge setpoint????
I didn't. Tesla found the brake problem and fixed it during an annual service. Then my Watts per mile usage dropped significantly.Thanks. How did you figure it out?