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Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2015
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And now I am particularly happy I sold 90% of my shares last Tuesday (after holding on to them for 2 years) to be able to open a Long Term Savings Account where I can re-purchase them... and then it turned out there is a T+3 accounting hold so I was not able to re-purchase them until today. Gotta love the crazy tax rules in my country...
So any tips guys? should I eat the 20 dollar per share jump and buy in today or wait a few days for self correction after a big jump? I am very worried about waiting as X config studio can go online and Founders delivery event could be announced at any moment which will give TSLA another boost...
So any tips guys? should I eat the 20 dollar per share jump and buy in today or wait a few days for self correction after a big jump? I am very worried about waiting as X config studio can go online and Founders delivery event could be announced at any moment which will give TSLA another boost...
Precisely, but there is a subtext which you did not pick up on, Elon may have delusional confidence, no other CEO buys their own stock offering, and we must be careful not to be swept away with it.
Sometimes it is not clear whether we should take him at face value, or are being manipulated . After all, Elon can buy his own stock in the open market without advertising it, but he does advertise it to make a point.
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decision making under uncertainty, use the game theory approach , buy half now , and other half at a more favorable price if it presents itself.
Agree 2029 is stretching it, and on another insane move I see Elon walking on airplane wings.
Sometimes I don't know whether I am irrational or the other person is.
if you are going to walk on airplane wings, the most difficult car in the world to make
is a walk in the park.
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And if you combine Take #1 (Energy Storage) with Take #2 (Uber-like service) you get Tesla being paid by mobility subscribers to own, themselves, a lot of (mobile) energy storage at say 70KwH a pop that they can, in our near future, use to influence the grid.
So you sold your shares... and now want to buy for higher price? Insane.
Then why you sold them?
Lets see this awesome sculptured 2nd row seat for the MX & the supplier deiivering them on time before we crown Tesla the ruler of the world.
I would love to see someone buy shares today based off of this note.
(Cynical comment)
Morgan Stanley was stuck with shares nobody wanted from the secondary so they gave Jonas the nudge for the old "pump & dump".
I would love to see someone buy shares today based off of this note.
(Cynical comment)
Morgan Stanley was stuck with shares nobody wanted from the secondary so they gave Jonas the nudge for the old "pump & dump".
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ev-enthusiast
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As far as I can see the PT of this upgrade of TM by MS to $465 is now the highest PT for TM out there
I sold also all my shares to eek out a small profit. There is still risk about Model X timing and delivery numbers. It will be difficult for Tesla, I think, to meet the numbers for this year. This could be a headfake, or it could be the start of a march above 300. No idea, but for now I'm still on the sidelines. I think after the Model X is shipping in volume there will be less risk, but you could miss out on a big tick upward.
Bottom line is risk and that is present in any stock. Not sure what to do here...but I'm leaning towards just sitting in cash for awhile. Still long-term bullish though.
This. I mean I fully expect the price to reach and pass it, but in the medium term it would be Tesla Energy that rakes in huge dollars. Lopping on that much 12-month price target off autonomous driving is kinda nutty.
CyberDutchie
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Prediction: Sept 270 calls will do minimum 100% gain today. :wink: Holding a brunch at $9.62 average. Mine will still be under water though, but not for long if this rally will have some legs.
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That is certainly by far the most pie in the sky reasoning for an upgrade yet. I can't say I disagree with the basic sentiment for the upgrade, but it's just so far out and I don't think Tesla will reveal any plans for this at all, the only reason for that would be to pump the stock. Normally Wall Street is much more short sighted, so I think this pump will be short lived.
Local tax rules. If you hold shares on a long term savings account you do not have to pay taxes on your win if you do not take the money out of that account for 5 years. BUT, you are not allowed to move shares from your normal trading account to the long term one, you have to sell your shares, wait t+3 days for accounting and then you are allowed to buy them on the market using the long term account. When I started investing in TSLA it was not yet allowed to put foreign stocks on the long term account.So you sold your shares... and now want to buy for higher price? Insane.
Then why you sold them?
My timing as a little off it seems...
Agreed. This typically wild note from Mr. Jonas would perhaps look less suspect if it was released outside such close proximity to MS underwriting a share offering for TSLA. As it stands, while I fully expected a bullish note from Mr. Jonas eventually, I don't think this one will have the market-moving force of some of his prior notes.
Most of the market is still waiting for evidence that Tesla can deliver on 2015 guidance, and I do think a wise trader should heavily discount future earnings from unannounced business line expansions (2029?!) while waiting for Tesla to hit the milestones necessary to make, sell and deliver enough cars first.
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not great not terrible
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