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At 15,000 miles per year I'm better off with the flat fee. Long road ahead as Washington transportation officials recommend per-mile charge to replace the state’s gas taxI think I’m ok with per mile if they get rid of the $150 fee
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At 15,000 miles per year I'm better off with the flat fee. Long road ahead as Washington transportation officials recommend per-mile charge to replace the state’s gas taxI think I’m ok with per mile if they get rid of the $150 fee
At 15,000 miles per year I'm better off with the flat fee. Long road ahead as Washington transportation officials recommend per-mile charge to replace the state’s gas tax
At 15,000 miles per year I'm better off with the flat fee. Long road ahead as Washington transportation officials recommend per-mile charge to replace the state’s gas tax
It will probably take a year or two of mileage fees just to pay for the collection system and 50% in subsequent years will go to the collection company. I think sticking with the fee is the way to go. It should get reduced 50% every 5 years. Maybe different tiers based on size, weight, range, or sales price. I’m also assuming electric vehicle price points drop below gas vehicles and there is no gas tax to collect. Otherwise just raise gas taxes and stop gouging EVs.hmmm. Even 2.4 cents per mile would be $180 if I drive 7,500 miles a year. That’s an absurd amount. That had to be WAY higher than the gas tax is now.
Once again, their calculations are off. They say 2.4 cents per mile is equivalent to 49.4 cents per gallon. 2.4 cents per mile for 7500 miles is $180. For a 30 miles per gallon vehicle, 250 gallons with a 49.4 cent gas tax is $123.50
the 150 tax assumes you drive the car at least certain amount each year. you are better off buying a (nasty) gas car if you don't drive ~ 10k miles each year.
i was looking at the RTA boundaries and there is some serious issue there. it literally cuts through communities in the middle randomly. whats up with that? Anyone know how they decided the boundaries to the north, east and south?
unincorporated areas are exempt. I’m guessing it is that.
Yea I called in again and got a nicer DoL rep who said she "filed a review". She warned me that "if the MSRP comes out higher than we have though, you will have to pay that amount". I tried to tell her that's impossible since $57k is already higher than any M3 MSRP today (i get that the Performance was more expensive in the past).I have no idea why they've got the wrong MSRP for you, and it makes no sense. My cars pull up correctly. Best advice I can offer is to find a licensing office and see if they can help.
And yeah the depreciation and valuation schedule is bonkers.
Sounds like you may already know this, but they are supposed to use the base MSRP “excluding any optional equipment” per RCW 82.44.041(3). Note that this RCW was replaced years ago, but it’s the one that the RTA valuation and depreciation schedule is based upon per Sound Transit 3.When I checked my registration from last year it looks like they based my MSRP on exactly what was quoted on the Monroney sticker included in the car which includes $49k (MSRP quoted in DoL database for 2018 LR RWD) for Model 3 + Long range (not broken out with $35k for base) and then options (MSM paint, 19" sport wheels, and $5k EAP -which i don't have because I bought used from Tesla so that is impossible, it's AP only). So basically, they calculated my RTA on the full price w/ options, including options I do not have like EAP.
Yea, exactly. Originally, those who purchased 2017-2018(?) were still being charged based on $35k base MSRP despite what model (LR,AWD,P). I can confirm my buddy who purchased in 2018 is being charged based on $35k despite having the same 2018 LR RWD that I have. Today, based on DoL's own MSRP lookup tool, I should be charged based on a $49k MSRP which honestly, would be fine with at this point.Sounds like you may already know this, but they are supposed to use the base MSRP “excluding any optional equipment” per RCW 82.44.041(3). Note that this RCW was replaced years ago, but it’s the one that the RTA valuation and depreciation schedule is based upon per Sound Transit 3.
https://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/docs/rcw82-44-041.pdf
I think the only gray area is whether LR, AWD, and P are options or not (they've done it both ways). Wheels, paint, and EAP/FSD are definitely options that should be excluded.
The boundary seems bizarre to me. I have a friend in Sumner that pays the tax, while in Maple Valley I’m much closer to the main service area and yet don’t pay the tax.How far to get to an unincorporated territory?
Sumner has a Sound Transit Sounder commuter rail station, so that's why it's in the district. They even have a project to add a parking garage there.The boundary seems bizarre to me. I have a friend in Sumner that pays the tax, while in Maple Valley I’m much closer to the main service area and yet don’t pay the tax.
Sumner has a Sound Transit Sounder commuter rail station, so that's why it's in the district. They even have a project to add a parking garage there.
System expansion | Sound Transit
Here's a map of the RTA district:
Sound Transit Address Determinations
Sumner has a Sound Transit Sounder commuter rail station, so that's why it's in the district. They even have a project to add a parking garage there.
System expansion | Sound Transit
Here's a map of the RTA district:
Sound Transit Address Determinations
Do you know how the boundary was established? I wasn’t living in the area at the time. I’m surprised it doesn’t match the growth boundary more closely.
It should be on MSRP w/o options. However, my RTA has been calculated w/ options and software and I’ve been unsuccessfully trying to appeal it for months with no luck.Just wanting clarification... is RTA tax based on base pricing or configured pricing? In other words, without or with the options/software.