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I'd say just get the S85 unless you can floor it very regularly. My general comparisons between Roadster, S85 and P85+ are here:
P85+ Loaner Report | Tesla Owner
P85+ Loaner Report | Tesla Owner
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Two things to consider:
1. P85 makes most sense with the 21" performance tires. Those will incur significant cost in the long term vs 19"s. If it were just the one-time extra cost, I would have been more compelled to get the P.
2. When you schedule service, you can often get a P85 loaner, so once a year or so you'll probably get to drive one anyway and get extra fun.
Anyway, that's why I went with the S85. Traffic is such that I don't get to punch it as often as I want to anyway.
Makes the most sense with 21" tires because of traction limits? Is the P85 with 19" just a bad idea?
Yeah, traction. I'm just making an assumption that 21" tires will provide the extra grip and handling that go hand-in-hand with what drivers expect from the performance version of a sports car. I think a P85 with 19's is a bit like buying a super fast computer and video card but then skimping on the monitor size. It's not a super bad idea, but I think it's just missing out on a lot of the benefits of the extra performance.
I've tested my S85 (19") and can get the rear to drift somewhat easily when taking aggressive corners. I assume that in a P85 with 21's there would be a lot more traction.
Analogy error. Post-It notes release relatively easily.stuck like a post it note
Analogy error. Post-It notes release relatively easily.
Thanks for the comparison. Having driven a friend's Roadster(and falling in love with that several years ago) but not looking for a sports car, I tested the S85, fell in love again....and cannot wait for my metallic brown which should arrive on Sept. 19! I m so excited! I don't think the S85 will disappoint me.
I'd say just get the S85 unless you can floor it very regularly. My general comparisons between Roadster, S85 and P85+ are here:
P85+ Loaner Report | Tesla Owner
Read your comparison. " I think an interesting option would be to get the “+” without the “P”. "
I've lobbied for TM to provide a suspension upgrade option for the Standard. Don't think they've done so yet.
Have you considered any aftermarket suspension upgrades that might firm up S handling without degrading
ride quality? Like you, I'm holding onto my Roadster for the long run, so I won't give up frequent doses of the
3.7 to 60mph rush that I'm now addicted to, by getting the Standard.
Are those getting the S85 getting it w/in the 2 month time frame?
This could be because of the end of quarter push...
"S85+" seems like a way of saying "trackify my S85 for low-to-mid speed track activity" (like autocross).I don't see why you can't buy the + without the P. Might make sense for some people. I think just the 21" wheels is at least is a step in that direction.
"S85+" seems like a way of saying "trackify my S85 for low-to-mid speed track activity" (like autocross).
I have the 19" wheels, and haven't noticed any major problems having the 19s vs. the 21s - and the 19s seem a little more practical - should last longer (not sure how much) and not as susceptible to curb rash.
The S85 is plenty fast for any function other than a major adrenaline boost.