Red Light/License Plate Deterrent

[Peteybabes]

Install this and never incur fees again...

noPhoto Camera Jammer - Prevents Red Light and Speed Camera Tickets - Mr. Kustom Auto Accessories and Customizing

Anybody?

*btw love this website for an awesome rim/wheel visualizer and other fun mods...(such as disappearing front license plates i had on my last car:

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[kort677]

illegal in many places

 

[Peteybabes]

illegal in many places

thankfully in ohio, it's illegal for the gov't to take red light pix... (but i visit Chicago and NYC)

this thread is just for fun mods, etc... like: No-Fade Glass Custom LED Brake Light Projector - Mr. Kustom Auto Accessories and Customizing

not looking for trouble at the end of the day.

 

[Maximus-MX]

Hmmmm, well... I completely stop at stop sign (at least 3 seconds). Stop when the light turns yellow, unless I'm already in the middle of the intersection. My "offset from speed limit" is +0 mph, with speed limit warning = chime.

 

[outie]

What about the rear license plate...?

 

[jgalak]

thankfully in ohio, it's illegal for the gov't to take red light pix... (but i visit Chicago and NYC)

In NY it's illegal to use anything that keeps the camera from seeing the plate, and they will ticket for it.

 

[Peteybabes]

In NY it's illegal to use anything that keeps the camera from seeing the plate, and they will ticket for it.

i agree, but this is almost impossible to detect compared to a plate cover...

 

[MacGreiner]

Just stop at red lights like you should and you wont have a problem.

 

[jgalak]

For now. Of the thing becomes common enough, they'll learn what to look for.

 

[jeffro01]

Just stop at red lights like you should and you wont have a problem.

It's not that simple though... There is no consistency from place to place as to "when" the camera decides you broke the law and snaps your picture... Red light cameras are unconstitutional anyhow and I don't think you're going to see them around much longer...

Jeff

 

[kort677]

It's not that simple though... There is no consistency from place to place as to "when" the camera decides you broke the law and snaps your picture... Red light cameras are unconstitutional anyhow and I don't think you're going to see them around much longer...

Jeff

while I agree with your view on the constitutionality of the enforcement by camera I believe that there have been precedent setting rulings permitting the use of the camera to assess fines for violations.
FWIW: Jacksonville FLA, which is near to me is taking down all their cameras, the reason given for their abandoning the cameras was quite cryptic but I think centered around possible legal challenges that they just didn't want to deal with.
Some localities have banned the usage of cameras as well.
to me a larger issues is some places use cameras for speed enforcement, which brings into play even more legal questions.

 

[jeffro01]

while I agree with your view on the constitutionality of the enforcement by camera I believe that there have been precedent setting rulings permitting the use of the camera to assess fines for violations.
FWIW: Jacksonville FLA, which is near to me is taking down all their cameras, the reason given for their abandoning the cameras was quite cryptic but I think centered around possible legal challenges that they just didn't want to deal with.
Some localities have banned the usage of cameras as well.
to me a larger issues is some places use cameras for speed enforcement, which brings into play even more legal questions.

The issue certainly is muddy, no doubt...

Cameras for speed enforcement are absolutely unconstitutional in every possible way and those are the ones that really get under my skin...

Jeff

 

[K-MTG]

I don't think these red light cameras and speed traps are legal in CA. Though I see them in the older areas, Garden Grove, Anaheim.

 

[kort677]

I don't think these red light cameras and speed traps are legal in CA. Though I see them in the older areas, Garden Grove, Anaheim.

I'm confused, if the cameras are not legal how are they allowed to remain?

 

[jgalak]

Constitutionality is complicated. Some areas make red/speed light camera tickets regular moving violations, same as if a cop issued it. Many consider these problematic, as Constitution require the ability to "confront the accuser". This is still an open question. I'm not aware of any scotus ruling on it.

However, many jurisdictions, like here in NY, treat these tickets as civil penalties, equivalent to a parking ticket. In this case, there's clearly no prohibition, as protections in the case of civil law are much less than for criminal. These tickets are clearly acceptable under us Constitution.

To add more complications, some state constitutions and laws are broader, so some things that are OK under federal law may not be in some states.