Panoramic sunroof

[MitchL]

While its easy to imagine that the pano roof's shades would become an "extra-cost retrofit," the "Options and Pricing" page reports that "Manusl Sunshades and wind buffet arm are included. "

Yes, I'm hoping for the best, but I think the "options and pricing" page is still considered a work in progress . It has changed before...

"Free retrofit" would be pricey for Tesla, even if (for example) only the first 1000 cars needed it. The last thing they'll want to do (costwise) is to bring all those cars in (or send rangers) for something this trivial, right?

We'll know soon enough!

/Mitch.

 

[brianman]

(Note that every beta so far has a pano roof.)

My eyes must be going bad. I could swear the roof is red on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ot_03DwGRA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
from
Model S Weekend at Santana Row Video Photo Links

 

[ddruz]

I remember that reports from the Santana Row event did say the red car had a regular hard top roof. There was one comment either here or on the Tesla forum from someone who sat in the rear seats of the hard top beta and the other betas with the panoramic roofs who said there was more rear headroom with the panoramic roof. Unfortunately I could not find the thread quote on a quick look, I'm sorry. If anyone else had the opportunity to sit in both I'd be keenly interested in their comments. Personally I'd prefer to go with a regular roof but am acutely aware of the tight rear headroom in the betas #23 and #29 with panoramic roofs which I've had the chance to sit in.

 

[Robert.Boston]

My eyes must be going bad. I could swear the roof is red on this one.

Good catch. As I said, though, I think the relevant part of the headroom issue isn't really solved by the pano roof. Getting the rear seats an inch lower would be a big help.

 

[ddruz]

That is a great idea!

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

Now that you reminded me, I did sit in the back in the red beta at the SR event while chatting with the Tesla rep Kyrstin Munson. I'm 6' 1" and had no headroom issues - but, I'm all legs so, that might have been a mitigating factor.

 

[Todd Burch]

I thought a Tesla rep mentioned at one point that one of the items on their checklist to solve prior to production was to lower the rear seats. Anyone remember this?

 

[ddruz]

gg_wants_a_telsa: Do you remember whether the headliner perimeter around where a panoramic roof would have been, the sides and back behind the rear seat, bulged in as much on the red beta as it did on the betas with the panoramic roofs? Trying to determine whether the region of the perimeter ingresses less with a standard roof which it might if there are supporting members around the panoramic roof. Thanks.

 

[NigelM]

I'm missing something here....does anyone regularly carry passengers over 6'4"?

 

[ckessel]

I'm missing something here....does anyone regularly carry passengers over 6'4"?

Well, my teenage son is 6'3"+, but he generally gets the front seat just for that reason.

Your point is still valid though, it's not a normal thing. If you've got a regular need to transport giants :tongue: then that needs to be be a significant factor in the kind of car you purchase.

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

gg_wants_a_telsa: Do you remember whether the headliner perimeter around where a panoramic roof would have been, the sides and back behind the rear seat, bulged in as much on the red beta as it did on the betas with the panoramic roofs? Trying to determine whether the region of the perimeter ingresses less with a standard roof which it might if there are supporting members around the panoramic roof. Thanks.

Sorry, didn't pay much attention above eye level. Was too busy checking out the seats and the (lower) interior fit and finish given all the debate about those that weekend. If I get a chance again with a roofless beta in the Bay Area stores, I'll observe and post for sure.

 

[Iz]

I thought a Tesla rep mentioned at one point that one of the items on their checklist to solve prior to production was to lower the rear seats. Anyone remember this?

It may have been a reference to lowering the jump seats.

 

[Robert.Boston]

I'm missing something here....does anyone regularly carry passengers over 6'4"?

Like ckessel, my teenage son is 6'3" and growing, but he's almost always hunched over his iPhone playing a game that I'm not going to worry too much. I'm more bothered by the MIA rear-seat USB charging ports.

 

[ChadS]

I'm missing something here....does anyone regularly carry passengers over 6'4"?

No. But MY head hits the frame behind the panoramic roof, and I regularly carry passengers taller than myself (my wife and kids are all 2" to 4" taller than me). I'm 5'9", but apparently have no legs. Or perhaps I sit up straighter than most.

So I'm eager to try out a vehicle with the regular roof.

 

[NigelM]

I'm more bothered by the MIA rear-seat USB charging ports.

Cables To Go 2m USB Extension Cable Not ideal but....

 

[Tommy]

Looks like Tesla just upped the specs on the panoramic roof optical qualities: Model S Options and Pricing | Tesla Motors


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[AnOutsider]

Yup, It used to say

With the All Glass Panoramic Roof, Model S is the only sedan capable of delivering a convertible-like drive experience every day. It's more than a sunroof: the entire roof is constructed from lightweight safety glass. With a simple swipe of the Touchscreen, it opens wider than any other sedan's panoramic roof. Manual sunshades and wind buffet arm are included. On even the hottest days, the innovative glass blocks 93% of visible light and 79% of heat to keep the cabin comfortable.

So 5% more visible light and 2% more heat blocked.

 

[jcstp]

why do they say "blocks 98% of visible light"? It would be dark in the car then!
I want to see thru the roof!!!! ;-)

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

why do they say "blocks 98% of visible light"? It would be dark in the car then!
I want to see thru the roof!!!! ;-)

Yeah, had the same thought. When closed, 98% is as good as opaque. So, unless one regularly opens the sunroof (and we had some folks say that it's rather rare that they actually do that), seems like an unnecessary option to go for?! Well, that was my reasoning anyway to go for the black roof instead and save some $$.

 

[jcstp]

when i see pics of the sunroof showed in newport, it seems more 98% visible light, and not blocked light, or am I wrong?