Onboard storage vs. USB drive for music

[Mayhemm]

You'd have to be pretty budget conscious; the difference is like $10. Personally, I'd get the USB 3.0 drive just in case I wanted to re-purpose it at some point.

Besides, in that capacity USB 2.0 drives are rare and (mostly) more expensive.

 

[gregincal]

I lean heavily toward the "Just tell us what the hell is going on." side on this. I can live without the onboard storage, though I had counted on it as advertised and would like to have it available as, I assume, it would be more flexible than the current USB option where there's no shuffle or any way to really randomize what music plays.

I think that's an unwarranted assumption. The actual music software is going to be identical whether the storage is internal or USB. There's absolutely nothing about internal storage that makes it easier to offer the features you are talking about. I imagine they'll support such things sooner or later.

The only difference between USB and internal storage is how the music gets loaded. If you need to use a flash drive (as is likely) to update the internal storage, then the feature is truly useless. If they supported over the air syncing of your music, then it would be great, but I don't think they ever planned that (they certainly didn't ever suggest it).

 

[Argelius]

For the budget conscious, USB3 is definitely overkill for just playing music.

That I realize...but it will speed the transfer of music to the drive. Not a huge deal, but a plus.

 

[dsmith2189]

I think that's an unwarranted assumption. The actual music software is going to be identical whether the storage is internal or USB. There's absolutely nothing about internal storage that makes it easier to offer the features you are talking about. I imagine they'll support such things sooner or later.

The only difference between USB and internal storage is how the music gets loaded. If you need to use a flash drive (as is likely) to update the internal storage, then the feature is truly useless. If they supported over the air syncing of your music, then it would be great, but I don't think they ever planned that (they certainly didn't ever suggest it).

one additional difference is that with USB the user determines how the music is stored. In a single directory or in directories by artist, genre or other random cataloguing method.
internal storage will allow a defined storage architecture which would allow more predictable indexing, searching and selecting of the users desired audio entertainment.

 

[gbdesai]

one additional difference is that with USB the user determines how the music is stored. In a single directory or in directories by artist, genre or other random cataloguing method.
internal storage will allow a defined storage architecture which would allow more predictable indexing, searching and selecting of the users desired audio entertainment.

Isn't that more a function of the implementation? The Tesla music app could simply read and index all MP3 tags and achieve the same result from a USB drive regardless of how content is stored. That's what my Sonos system does at home. I store music however I want on a drive in the house and it creates an index that works independently of that structure.

 

[brianman]

You'd have to be pretty budget conscious; the difference is like $10. Personally, I'd get the USB 3.0 drive just in case I wanted to re-purpose it at some point.
Besides, in that capacity USB 2.0 drives are rare and (mostly) more expensive.

~$30-$40
Amazon.com: 64gb flash drive

vs.

~$40-$70
Amazon.com: 64gb flash drive usb 3.0


Anyway, just an observation.

 

[SarahsDad]

Sized down to this 32GB Sandisk Flash Drive - Fits nicely. Better than my earlier attempt (Post #19 above).

 

[JPP]

Sized down to this 32GB Sandisk Flash Drive - Fits nicely. Better than my earlier attempt (Post #19 above).View attachment 34112

That's what I got--invisible and holds lots of tunes....

 

[gbdesai]

I use the SanDisk also, but just got a Transcend 256GB SSD and didn't want the cable sticking out. I found this great 90 degree adapter at amazon. I ordered two and hope they will face down to keep everything flush to the panel...

Amazon.com: HDE® USB 3.0 Vertical Male to Female Adapter Super Speed: Computers Accessories

G

 

[kevincwelch]

Now (or for however long) that the hard drive is not mentioned in the design studio, has the hard drive that was listed as part of the sound studio upgrade in the past no longer going to happen?

 

[Mayhemm]

I think it was mentioned some time ago (pre-FW 5.x) that Tesla had decided to re-appropriate the onboard storage and use it for offline caching of the Google maps.

So, no. Onboard music storage is no longer happening.

 

[Mr X]

Sized down to this 32GB Sandisk Flash Drive - Fits nicely. Better than my earlier attempt (Post #19 above).View attachment 34112

I have that USB as well, best one out there i think.

 

[kevincwelch]

I have that USB as well, best one out there i think.

I have these as well, and they work flawlessly. Kingston now makes a 64GB USB drive that is ever so slightly larger than the SanDisk ones that I think I'm going to pick up now that there is no longer a hard drive option.

 

[ModelS1079]

Music Quality: what is the best way to load the USb with music at the highest quality? Can this be done from iTunes or should we be loading CDs into the computer and then transfer? Looking for the best quality at reasonable level of effort.

 

[kevincwelch]

Music Quality: what is the best way to load the USb with music at the highest quality? Can this be done from iTunes or should we be loading CDs into the computer and then transfer? Looking for the best quality at reasonable level of effort.

This depends on a number of factors. It depends on the quality of the source, obviously, but also the bit rate of the recording.

I use iTunes to import all my music from CD, but I changed the default settings from 128 (160?) kbps AAC to 320 kbps mp3. Once you change this setting, importing music at high quality takes minimal effort.

There are better ways, but perhaps a little more inconvenience.

I just drag and drop files using Windows Explorer.

 

[jerry33]

Music Quality: what is the best way to load the USb with music at the highest quality? Can this be done from iTunes or should we be loading CDs into the computer and then transfer? Looking for the best quality at reasonable level of effort.

It can't be done directly from iTunes because Tesla doesn't understand Apple Lossless and Apple doesn't understand FLAC. However, you can convert Apple Lossless to FLAC with programs like Max so you don't have to load the CDs. Or you can convert directly from CDs. There wouldn't be a difference in sound because either method is Lossless.

 

[aaron0k]

I think it was mentioned some time ago (pre-FW 5.x) that Tesla had decided to re-appropriate the onboard storage and use it for offline caching of the Google maps.

So, no. Onboard music storage is no longer happening.

Has there been an official statement on this?

 

[capt601]

Has there been an official statement on this?

Same question? That would go against what I paid for

 

[kevincwelch]

Same question? That would go against what I paid for

I would say I'm miffed about it, but not sure I'd make a big deal about it...what could one do either way?

 

[aaron0k]

I would say I'm miffed about it, but not sure I'd make a big deal about it...what could one do either way?

On-board storage was my deciding factor in opting for the Sound Package, if they can't deliver; I'd like my money back or equivalent (not a $20 USB drive).

According to the specs on TeslaTap.com "Memory – 16 GB SD flash memory standard, 32 GB when equipped with Sound Studio/Ultra High Fidelity Sound"

If this is the case, there should be at least 16gb left over on "Sound Studio" equipped for on-board storage? Were all MS's really equipped with 32gb boards and Tesla decided to use it all for caching map tiles?