What's going on with this?The part is by Bilstein, they came with a new part and this one is now failing within 1-2k of driving and Tesla now won't do anything about it.
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What's going on with this?The part is by Bilstein, they came with a new part and this one is now failing within 1-2k of driving and Tesla now won't do anything about it.
A common problem with old white ABS plastics is the fire retardant goes yellow over time. A common trick in the retro computer world to bring back a yellowed computer case (think Amiga 500 etc) is a mix of Hydrogen Peroxide (hair bleach) and Oxy action type washing power (Google Retrobrite).
You paint the plastic with that mix then expose it to low level UV (eg the sun) for between hours and days depending on UV levels.
It works a treat. they look as good as new again but guess what, the yellowing returns over time.
I guarantee this band-aid fix Tesla is doing it nothing more than hoping the screens look good long enough for the car to be out of warranty.
I suspect the screen was built to their 'cheap' spec, the manufacturer has said 'we told you' and they are not covering the costs, instead Tesla is and now they need to weasel out of it.
Sorry, about this.. by mistake some text got deleted. We were talking about what other things may be in the same limbo state. This is about rattle from front struts. Acknowledged by Tesla, had a new part, that is failing too. Now, no resolution. There is a whole thread about this.What's going on with this?
Innolux G170J1-LE1 Datasheet, Specification, Stocks, Application - lcd-source.comIt is listed as "like new or used" so who knows what the quality would be.
Yes, go back read from post #86 in this very thread.Do you have any proof of your assertion that they are not replacing the screens with ones that are fixed and won't yellow but are instead resorting to a clean-up band-aid?
There's not much to write about until they know exactly what's going on. All we know so far is that:
1. Some screens develop yellow bands around the edges
If their tool fixes the issue, what damages are you going to sue them for?
I'm pretty sure the only way UV could fix the problem with the existing glue would be if the problem was caused by the glue not being cured properly to begin with, and that's a problem that would be obvious on day one, rather than appearing after the car is several months old.
In all likelihood, what they're doing is using heat to soften the glue so they can delaminate the front glass and peel off the glue strips, then applying new cement and using UV to cure the new glue.
I don’t think we actually know they’re using UV at all. That was conjecture by a poster here...
And as I noted in an earlier post today, my Service Center (Rockville, MD) said, as of today, Tesla is reviewing things, i.e., there is no fix at the moment. I relayed the different things noted in this thread, and I mentioned the article in Inverse. He seemed aware of all of it. I have worked with this individual for 4 years, so I don’t think we misunderstood each other.
I can’t imagine any plausible scenario where the labor necessary to delaminate an LCD, scrape off a bunch of defective glue and then manually put everything back together without muffing something up is more cost effective for Tesla than just replacing with a new screen.In all likelihood, what they're doing is using heat to soften the glue so they can delaminate the front glass and peel off the glue strips, then applying new cement and using UV to cure the new glue.
Tesla than just replacing with a new screen.
View attachment 400023 No idea if this is a new part number or not but this is what they installed:
he said a coming software fix will be the main way they deal with this issue, which I’ve been hearing for quite a while. He said most who want a new screen will have to pay. This is per some briefing they had just recently. He made it sound like I was pretty lucky to have my screen replaced.
It continues to amaze me how many people buy that a 'software fix' is even remotely possible. This defect is not in the active, software-addressed part of the display. Most of the yellowing is reflective, and will appear when there is no power to the car. The yellow band would be evident if the HV and 12v battery were removed from the car. Software cannot address this. I know many people seem to think Tesla's software is "magic", but software cannot cure physical defects in the adhesive.
Did the mobile service guy explain to you what gets people into the 'replacement vs you have to pay for our miscalculations' club?
Sounds like my mobile ranger got guidance saying that they aren’t going to replace every single persons screen who has yellowing, instead he said a coming software fix will be the main way they deal with this issue, which I’ve been hearing for quite a while. He said most who want a new screen will have to pay. This is per some briefing they had just recently. He made it sound like I was pretty lucky to have my screen replaced.