NEMA 14-50 adapter not included anymore

[MXWing]

I never got free EAP like my buddy did. Ordered identical configs. He’s had it since day 1.

Was your buddy smart enough to buy FSD for 2K and lock it all in?

 

[tjkessler]

Never used the UMC. J1772 adapter with a 40 amp charger from a previous EV is fine at home. J1772 at work and many locations as well are just fine. I added a dual wireless charger so I didn't need the USB cables at all.

 

[VQTRVA]

This is a fallacy that is not supported by any available evidence.

I always assumed that the bell shaped curve had most people using a 14-50 @. home.
Surprised. Contended otherwise.

 

[duanra]

The UMC is all I need and it is fastest charging I'll ever get since I own a MR.

 

[Darthbenji]

Was your buddy smart enough to buy FSD for 2K and lock it all in?

Nope.

 

[tschmidty]

I’m surprised at how many saying most people don’t use the 14-50. I never understood why people were paying $500 for a charger when you got one with the car.

A lot of people want to be able to carry that mobile charger with them just in case and have a second at home. So you can get an extra mobile connector for $300 or a HPWC for $500 and charge a fair bit faster.

To add to that, if I didn't have a 14-50 available and had to install a new outlet, I would probably spring for the HPWC.

 

[Scott7]

This is a non-issue for me. I have a bunch of USB-Lightning cables around the house, and they’re a commodity item you can get almost anywhere.

The included USB cables are not general purpose; They are specifically designed for the Model 3 phone dock, so you can easily put 2 phones in the dock in a one 1-handed motion. The cable is exactly the right length and has a right-angle near the end that fits the exact mold of the dock.

Just taking a regular charging cable that came with your phone doesn't work.

Personally, I put a Jeda 2 wireless charger in my dock so I don't have to use any cables in my car.

 

[jboy210]

It better, or your were ripped off. 14-50 will only do 32A, Wall Connector will do 48A.

It won't do 48A with the same 50A CB which is what we are limited ours to because of other loads. We get 40A of charging which is nice.

But even 50A vs 32A does not matter when you charge every night. For me, an hour earlier charging completion does means finishing at 2 AM instead of 3 AM. Either way I am sleeping when the car finishes. It only matters that at 6AM when I get up, the car is charged.

 

[TexasEV]

A lot of people want to be able to carry that mobile charger with them just in case and have a second at home

In case of what? A lot of people haven’t thought this through, or listened to the experience of Tesla owners who have kept the UMC hanging on a hook in the garage for years and only take it with them on a long trip.

 

[TexasEV]

I’m surprised at how many saying most people don’t use the 14-50. I never understood why people were paying $500 for a charger when you got one with the car.

Just because people say it doesn’t make it true. A survey here a few years ago found 14-50 was the most common way of charging a Tesla at home.

 

[patrick80132]

FYI - for all people pending delivery of their Model 3. I took delivery on 5/11 (05/19 build) and the NEMA 14-50 adapter is no longer included in the Mobile Connector. The only adapter it comes with is the NEMA 5-15 (standard home outlet).

Also missing are the USB phone charging cables. I asked the delivery manager and he said they just recently started this to reduce cost.

*The second generation Mobile Connector has a max output of 32 amps when using the 14-50 or 6-50 adapter. Recharge speeds listed above for these two adapters reflects this current output.

So is it not possible to charge at the 50 amp rate any longer?

 

[StellarRat]

I could swear the plug on my TMC was 14-50 and needed an adapter for 120v??? I don't remember needing an adapter for 14-50 i.e. it was the default plug.

 

[patrick80132]

I wonder why Tesla is doing the 2nd gen plug? Do they want to push their own chargers for the long range battery owners?

 

[tschmidty]

Hmm, so the Gen1 charger can actually do more amps than the Gen2. Has anyone tried the Gen1 on a model 3 and confirmed the 40amp charging rate?

 

[TexasEV]

I could swear the plug on my TMC was 14-50 and needed an adapter for 120v??? I don't remember needing an adapter for 14-50 i.e. it was the default plug.

There’s no such thing as a TMC, but if it’s a typo for UMC there is no default plug. You have to attach one of the adapters to it to plug it in. That’s true for both generations of UMC, and what makes it “Universal”.

 

[CarterStC]

Hmm, so the Gen1 charger can actually do more amps than the Gen2. Has anyone tried the Gen1 on a model 3 and confirmed the 40amp charging rate?

It does.

 

[Dmagyar]

Yeah, I got one, but was told they wouldn't be including them anymore. It is pretty minor but I would guess it is not all that commonly used. People either use 115v and superchargers or a wall charger. And it they do have a 240v outlet the cost of the adapter is pretty minor.

A 14/30 nema adapter was $35 at Tesla’s online site.

 

[StellarRat]

There’s no such thing as a TMC, but if it’s a typo for UMC there is no default plug. You have to attach one of the adapters to it to plug it in. That’s true for both generations of UMC, and what makes it “Universal”.

You know I never really looked at it that closely. It must have had the 14-50 adapter already on it when I got the car, so I thought that was way it was built. Now I'm going to look at it when I get home tonight. I do have a 14-50 plug in my garage that it's using.

 

[Joshan]

I am glad it came with mine, it is what I charge with every day!

 

[jboy210]

You know I never really looked at it that closely. It must have had the 14-50 adapter already on it when I got the car, so I thought that was way it was built. Now I'm going to look at it when I get home tonight. I do have a 14-50 plug in my garage that it's using.

Look at the cord from the 14-50 goes into the top of the UMC. You will see it is a block attached the short cable going to the 14-50 plug. This entire section is will come off if you give the cord between the UMC and 14-50 a tug. The 120 plug will be attached to another short cord.

Here is what the adapter looks like standalone and attached to the UMC. 120V is attached.