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Tesla's Supercharger Team was recently laid off. We discuss what this means for the company on today's TMC Podcast streaming live at 1PM PDT. You can watch on X or on YouTube where you can participate in the live chat.
Agreed. Last Tuesday I said in this thread I’m starting to wonder if the impending release of the increasingly spied Model 3 Performance/Ludicrous is driving an updated Model S Plaid. If true, the thought process would be that the M3P is good enough to draw sales from the MSP, and therefore some updates to MSP are being implemented. These updates probably wouldn't stem that consumer movement completely, but would continue to show investment in MSP.
That's interesting. Thanks for the helpful information! Does it help my case that no exact MSP build has surfaced in the "Earlier Pickup Available" section of the Tesla App since placing my order mid December? They've been trying to get me to select one of these cars repeatedly, but I just ignore them because I know they are all 2023's.Haha. On que. Yes you can cancel but the problem is if you reorder and the car is still in inventory you will get matched up with the same 2023 again and again and again. Ask me how I know...
You have to make sure there are no 2023 cars in your exact configuration in inventory before placing your order. I think if you don't see any inventory right now you should be okay. I'm in the same boat. I had the same car I assigned to me three times. I just took my order off hold because they told me that 2023 has been sold...
Definitely sucks. Tesla didn't need deposits to get the program going. Tesla had a much higher chance of being around in 5 years from when deposit was made for new Roadster compared to 2009. Or 2006 or so for original Roadster owners.
I really hope this is the case. Imagine the M3P/Ludicrous being touted at having 700-800 "HP." The updated look, power, and price could potentially cannibalize the MSP. It would only make sense for Tesla to throw a bone or two at their MSP customers.
Huh?
To my best knowledge, they have ONLY used the Pirelli P Zero Summer tire as the OEM tire on the MS since mid-2021 (refresh MS).
When did they start using the Contis? Was it just an "up North/Canada" thing to get an All Season tire on the cars?
Frankly, I'm glad they've made the switch as the Pirellis are MUCH noiser and have zero snow grip as compared to the Contis, this from two friends that are 2022 MS LR owners in the SeaTac area that have replaced their P Zeros with the Contis (and who are also stunned by the improvement).
Yes, the LR's never had contrasting piping AFAIK, while the Plaids all should (at least the newer ones) as that's a key differentiation between the two that is hard to hide.
This is excellent for fraud prevention as some buy a Plaid sticker and a spoiler to create fake Plaids to sell on eBay and the like--buyer beware!
n2mb_racing
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That's interesting. So you found it in the model S service manual for sure? I was worried that the new seats might only be for the model 3 and we'd get nothing.
n2mb_racing
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Yup. You can check the inventory on tesla.com or Tesla info and search for your build.
If it was an exact match, they wouldn't ask. They'd just assign it to you.
Yes, it darn well better be a 2024 model year MS.
If not, tell them you're refusing the car absent a $10k adjustment, or have them replace your 2023 "offered" MS and call you when a 2024 model year shows up . . . .
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I now have an EDD of Feb 16 - Mar 22.
Ordered Nov 10
'23 VIN assigned Dec 1.
Order on hold for two weeks,
'23 VIN again again Dec 29
Order cancelled
Ordered again Jan 1.
Accepted new range details on Jan 6
Same '23 VIN assigned again Jan 14
Order on hold for two weeks
MSP: UR / Black / 19s / Wheel.
No VIN yet...
Ordered Nov 10
'23 VIN assigned Dec 1.
Order on hold for two weeks,
'23 VIN again again Dec 29
Order cancelled
Ordered again Jan 1.
Accepted new range details on Jan 6
Same '23 VIN assigned again Jan 14
Order on hold for two weeks
MSP: UR / Black / 19s / Wheel.
No VIN yet...
Interesting stuff. Our builds are the same, with the exception that I ordered mine in solid black. Haven't had a single VIN assigned to me from since my 12/13/2023. Nothing after the Jan 6th range update either. If anything, it feels like NOT having a VIN assigned now benefits us, lol! The further we get into the Jan/Feb, the more confident I feel in us getting '24s. It's a shame Tesla doesn't have any form of communication on this. I've learned more on this forum about production/expectations/timelines in a day than my entire 3 years M3 ownership.
This sounds like a plan. I'll do exactly this if Tesla tries to pull a fast one by trying to deliver me a 2023VIN in February 2024, lol!
Mine's similar but LR, not P and cream interior.
I wonder if the UR is what's slowing things down?
My EDD is still January 29
- March 4 Still no VIN.
Oh - forgot to add - some of the Roadster 2.0 folks put a full $250,000 down for the special edition.
I must now have one of the earliest order dates here... 11/27 EDD Feb 1 to Feb 22
It's really impressive Tesla was able to get people to put down this much. I really hope they deliver something amazing for those that waited that long.
I think calling it next gen Roadster or something likely better as the original Roadster did have a 1.5, 2, and 2.5 (along with 3.0 battery upgrade). Although not many people will know that and I'm sure most everyone knows what you're talking about. Minor point I guess.
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