lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
I'm not disputing history or what you want or don't want, or even what you should buy. I'm just questioning your conclusions about when the car will be able to drive itself.
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the fundamental problem with FSD is that its not tied to a user but to a car, say you spend 10K on FSD, two years later new model S comes with <insert awesome feature here>
Well, you just donated 10K to Elon because your FSD does not transfer over to your new car and you have to buy it again, and TSLA does not give you 10K extra for your trade-in. So unless someone plans on keeping their car for the life of the battery, then it's not worth it. Of course, unless your rich, and 10k is chump change.
Well, you just donated 10K to Elon because your FSD does not transfer over to your new car and you have to buy it again, and TSLA does not give you 10K extra for your trade-in. So unless someone plans on keeping their car for the life of the battery, then it's not worth it. Of course, unless your rich, and 10k is chump change.
Missile Toad
MSLR Wht/Blk/19 | OD 6/10/21 | RN11512
@Phlier Don't forget Otto Lilienthal . Famous for being killed flying his glider invention. The Wrights took extraordinary risks, and I'm sure that they also had a test pilot or two die in their more advanced designs.
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On September 17, Army lieutenant Thomas Selfridge rode along as his passenger, serving as an official
observer. A few minutes into the flight at an altitude of about 100 feet (30 m), a propeller split and shattered,
sending the Flyer out of control. Selfridge suffered a fractured skull in the crash and died that evening in the
nearby Army hospital, becoming the first airplane crash fatality. Orville was badly injured, suffering a broken
left leg and four broken ribs. Twelve years later, after he suffered increasingly severe pains, X-rays revealed
the accident had also caused three hip bone fractures and a dislocated hip.
josahua
Member
As requested! Couple exterior shots where you can kinda see the white seats w/ the blue, then a front interior shot (I didn't even think to grab more of the actual interior, but I can get a shot of the rear seats if there's interest too). Also threw in a shot of the front right wheel/tire for those interested in what rubber came with the 19".
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d1ez3
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Beautiful! But I'm biased because that's my exact build (minus one motor). That blue looks better in your photos than others, are the photos very true to life color?
IamGaryGnu
Endless IBS
I’m kinda partial to this color combo…looks great!
Awesome pictures, have a Blue/White LR coming soon so these images made my day - thank you!!
Tell me an option that doesn't transfer to a new owner when you sell any car. Maybe you're lucky and get to keep some floor mats or something, but FSD is an option and does transfer to the new owner. As well, it does add value when that transfer happens. I know this for a fact because I did it with a 2021 pre-refesh S. It had FSD, I sold it to a wholesaler that was freaking out because he thought it wouldn't transfer. It did. That adds value to the car. I sold that car for MORE than I paid for it, so there was no loss associated with FSD. The exception being if Tesla re-aquires the car and removes FSD. Even then, the trade-in price that's agreed to by the seller should reflect some of the FSD cost.
I don't see it as a fundamental problem and I really cannot understand how anyone would think that buying FSD once would somehow entitle one to have it into perpetuity.
Now a value argument is a completely different argument and FSD I believe to certainly be debatable on that account.
Great combo! It reminds me of the blueberry/vanilla swirl Saf-T-Pops lollipops. Which isn't a bad thing. Ok, too much wine, I'll crawl back into my hole. I do dig the combo though in all seriousness.
I can only say I took those shots in full sun with an iPhone 13, but I didn't tweak the color/etc at all. I will say that it looked noticeably darker when I picked it up earlier in the day with overcast skies, so the lighting makes a huge difference.
I don't think this how things will play out. The price curve for tech tends to only go in one direction. Tesla is no the only game in town and it would be a mistake not think they have the market cornered on smart people. There are other autonomous driving stacks our there with varying levels of success. At the very least, even if Tesla has the most technologically advanced, the competition will introduce price pressure and undercut the premium FSD will get. Plus, history is full of cautionary tales about having the "best" technology does not always guarantee success in the marketplace.
josahua
Member
That is my build. Thanks for the preview.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
EndlessPlaid
⚡EV/Tesla Nerd 🔋
HEY NO COMPLAINING! You asked for this lmao!
jebinc
Well-Known Member
That was yesterday; today’s a new day! Until tomorrow…HEY NO COMPLAINING! You asked for this lmao!
Those are fair points and I agree for most tech that’s the case. Whenever there is competition the consumer wins as the price gets driven down to acquire customers.
However something as difficult to master as FSD doesn’t automatically fall into the same category as previous tech. I don’t think we’ll see multiple companies achieve it at the same time so there will not be any price competition for several years. The first company to mass produce a true self driving car will be able to name their price initially.
To your point once there are 2+ companies offering FSD the price will drop significantly. There are a lot of examples of novel tech products being rediculously expensive at first, then dropping significantly once other companies catch up.
Is it normal for a VIN disappear after getting one?
Last week, I had a VIN which could be seen on the pdf document that could be downloaded.
Then, I got financing through Tesla. Once it was approved, and I uploaded insurance based on the VIN, the VIN is nowhere to be found. It says next step is “review documents”, but there is nothing yet there to review and the previous document is no longer there.
My EDD is Oct 25-Nov 2, which I assume will update tomorrow when Oct 25th passes.
Last week, I had a VIN which could be seen on the pdf document that could be downloaded.
Then, I got financing through Tesla. Once it was approved, and I uploaded insurance based on the VIN, the VIN is nowhere to be found. It says next step is “review documents”, but there is nothing yet there to review and the previous document is no longer there.
My EDD is Oct 25-Nov 2, which I assume will update tomorrow when Oct 25th passes.
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