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because when Tesla tells you the price of the vehicle, they tell you what the cost is AFTER getting the $7500 government rebate. So if they tell you that its $35k, it's actually $42.5k. If they tell you it's $40k, it's actually $47.5k. the price they give you is also without any options nor the delivery charges. the reality of it is that once you include a few option packages, the invoice price on paper that you're gonna see and going to pay is actually closer to $50k. oh, and that's assuming you live in an EV tax-free state like NJ. If you live in a state that charges sales tax for electric vehicles, add another $3-$4k or so.
Actually I think I recall hearing Elon in an interview sometime this year saying the price would be $35K before rebates. Unfortunately I cannot recall which of the many Elon interviews I have watched/listened to was the one where he made that statement.
Of course the oft mentioned $35K price is the base/bare minimum price, no options.
Of course the oft mentioned $35K price is the base/bare minimum price, no options.
Well that'd be pretty awesome if that's true. I watched all his Q&A sessions and don't recall that but then again that was a whole ago so perhaps.
The reality is we've heard a number of different prices for the Model ≡, starting with around $30K, then around $35K before inflation, without subsidies, and now around $40K.
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I recall running across that, too. In any event, the federal tax credit starts phasing out after 200,000 vehicles. If Model S sales continue to grow, and Model X sales are anything like those, there's a decent chance that the phase-out period will begin about the same time as the Model 3 gets released.
Ok, I also just waded through Musk's Twitter feed (I need a life!) -- the pricing comment was $30k in 2013 dollars, promising 200+ mile range and "really cool tech". The response was to a question that was framed without incentives -- so here's hoping!
I'll be stunned if the base Model 3 is $30K before any available rebates. If it is $35k then Tesla will be back logged with orders for years. If it is under $40k it will still be a big success.
I recall running across that, too. In any event, the federal tax credit starts phasing out after 200,000 vehicles. If Model S sales continue to grow, and Model X sales are anything like those, there's a decent chance that the phase-out period will begin about the same time as the Model 3 gets released.
Ok, I also just waded through Musk's Twitter feed (I need a life!) -- the pricing comment was $30k in 2013 dollars, promising 200+ mile range and "really cool tech". The response was to a question that was framed without incentives -- so here's hoping!
Mad research props man! Thats what im talking about! So either things changed quickly or communication is off with spokespeople for the company.
It's called the Tesla price creep. It's bound to happen to the 3rd model, just like the two before it.
Pretty much. I think it's called inflation. Other manufacturers don't announce prices on vehicles five years away though.
Elon has also stated the Model 3 would cost approximately half the cost of the Model S. Unfortunately, he has avoided that recently but I believe that would have been a much better way to manage everyone's expectations. The media is going to have a field day when the 3's average sales price far exceeds $35k. 5 years ago Tesla priced the Model S at $57,400. Now it is $70k. And yes, I realize that is mostly because they dropped the smallest battery pack. Anyone think the same price creep won't happen again?
My thoughts exactly.
Trouble for me is I need the 300mile gen3, so when the base model gets a price increase, then I just have to hope that the "85kwh" gen3 is a smaller jump in price than the modelS. Considering the battery price should drop by at least 30% I hope tesla do the right thing.
A $40K car should be able to manage a 125 mile range in -10 deg weather at 60mph, an 80mph top speed and seven second acceleration.
Although almost any higher top speed is possible with a change in the gear ratio, it comes at the expense of reduced acceleration.
The Tesla marque happens to be known for its quick cars and a feasible way to accomplish this, despite the use of a less expensive low torque motor, is to maintain torque to the road wheels by a compensatory boost in the value of the gear ratio.
I assume that most of us roughly want a Tesla-quick car at this lower price point and for that reason I am sure there are those among us who would be prepared to sacrifice some bragging rights regarding top speed. OTOH others may need to be led out to the "can't have your cake and eat it" department.
My feeling is that a seven second acceleration ramp along with the superior throttle response that is complementary to an EV should satisfy most people.
Although almost any higher top speed is possible with a change in the gear ratio, it comes at the expense of reduced acceleration.
The Tesla marque happens to be known for its quick cars and a feasible way to accomplish this, despite the use of a less expensive low torque motor, is to maintain torque to the road wheels by a compensatory boost in the value of the gear ratio.
I assume that most of us roughly want a Tesla-quick car at this lower price point and for that reason I am sure there are those among us who would be prepared to sacrifice some bragging rights regarding top speed. OTOH others may need to be led out to the "can't have your cake and eat it" department.
My feeling is that a seven second acceleration ramp along with the superior throttle response that is complementary to an EV should satisfy most people.
See, that's what I can't wrap my brain around. Anybody who knows this companys remembers the base Model S in the 50s when it first came out. So you are telling me that after 4 years, vertical integration, and a giga factory that Tesla can only get the price down for their Model 3 for $10, 000 less? Please, thats a number game they are playing.
I think what ends up happening is the demand is much better than Tesla thought, and the price naturally goes up. If you only have an X number to sell(limited by output), why sell for less?
