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Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread, but if a person in Hong Kong ordered a Model S P85D today, how many months would it take for Tesla to deliver it to Hong Kong?

The P85D will be available for U.S. customers in December, if Tesla's schedule is not delayed. If the P85D is not available in Hong Kong for many months after that or even a year or more, the P85 and P85+ will still have unique status, and might probably be sold at a high price to impatient people who want a Tesla and don't want to wait.

I do understand the frustration though. The iPhone analogy makes sense to me. If I ordered an iPhone 5, and Apple delivered it to me only just before shipping iPhone 6, I would be irritated.
 
I found the Tesla HK page and it says:

June 2015 for the P85D and August 2015 for the 60D and 85D.

That's a minimum of about months for the P85D and 10 months for the others. Current HK owners will have the best or close to best vehicles until far into next year.
 
This was posted on by the official TM account on the Reddit TM subreddit,

"Hi all,
A point of clarification here regarding the difference between safety features and convenience features.
If you have a Model S with the Autopilot hardware (12 ultrasonic sensors, forward radar, forward looking camera, and electromechanical brake boost), your car is capable of Autopilot (that is typically the case for all cars completed after September 20, 2014).
Autopilot safety features, today and in the future, are included in every new Model S. Safety features include systems that warn drivers of potential hazards and help avoid or lessen the impact of potential collisions.
Autopilot convenience features are enabled for customers who have selected the Tech Package with Autopilot (upgrade from original Tech package). Convenience features include everyday driving maneuvers that reduce driver workload, such as traffic aware cruise control and automatic parking.
Please note that the different features will be enabled through over-the-air firmware upgrades in the coming months. If a customer has any additional questions, their Delivery Specialist can assist them.
Thanks, Tesla Motors"

someone else there here was told it is $500usd to activate Autopilot features.

http://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/2j54un/psa_to_anyone_with_a_pending_tesla_order/cl9noky
 
Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread, but if a person in Hong Kong ordered a Model S P85D today, how many months would it take for Tesla to deliver it to Hong Kong?

Hong Kong owners who ordered P85D this week have been told to expect delivery February 2015. S60D and S85D will come later in the summer/autumn of 2015.

There is a group of owners in Hong Kong joining together to write a letter to Jerome Guillen expressing our disappointment about the sudden introduction of the D.

The letter will be "result oriented" instead of "pure complaining", we are just trying to seek for a solution.

If you want to be a part of the letter, please send me your phone number and i will add you to the Whatsapp chat group.

The intent of this thread, by the OP, was to gather like-minded Hong Kong owners in a unified letter to Jerome to try to get a satisfactory outcome for the Hong Kong owners who feel disappointed by these announcements. To be clear, this is a Hong Kong issue, raised in the Hong Kong forums (enough emphasis added?).

Since then, it has gone back-and-forth, with each 'side' trying to persuade the other. Quite frankly, I don't see how that could ever succeed. The viewpoint is just so different between USA LHD and Hong Kong RHD - where the timeline in Hong Kong has been shifted two years (we are today where USA was two years ago - still dealing with the backlog of initial deliveries). The perspective of someone who has had their car for 2 years and seen these updates is just so different from someone who has been waiting for a year and is being asked to take delivery of an already old-specification vehicle. The perspective of someone who paid a premium for the P85+ top-of-the-line performance model, can never be the same as for someone who ordered a S60 on a budget.

In Australia, Tesla have taken the step of re-manufacturing the cars to avoid this issue of delivering old-specification vehicles. For some inexplicable reason they haven't done that (yet) for Hong Kong.

My viewpoint is that I reserved a S85 3 1/2 years ago, and took delivery a couple of months ago. I wouldn't have ordered the D option, even if it was available and certainly not if it meant another year's delay. I did miss out on the driver-assist features, but consider them of little use in Hong Kong and also take to heart the point that early deliveries in USA missed out on parking sensors, folding wing mirrors, and a host of other features and options that later deliveries benefited from. That said, my situation is irrelevant to someone who just took delivery of a P85+ (that just got smoked by the P85D) or hasn't taken delivery yet (and is about to be asked to accept an old-specification vehicle).

I've been following Tesla for six years now, and am unashamedly a fan. I also deeply groan whenever Elon tweets one of these announcements. I just know that there will be a backlash (whatever is announced) and that the regional offices and service centres will be completely unprepared to deal with the response. I find it incredible that, six years on, Tesla are still behaving the same way. It is marketing 101 that it can take years to build the relationship and confidence to make a customer for life, and one simple mistake to lose that same customer. Tesla, please don't stop innovating, but please work out a way you can do it without pissing off your loyal customer base.

Mark.
 
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Hah! I'm watching for deals like that around here, too. I still want my X, don't get me wrong. And the Roadster isn't going anywhere. But that kind of steep discount? Who can resist a sale like that???!!

A currently configured P85 (single drive), fully loaded with all options except cold weather package is HK$969,700. US$30k off that should be around HK$735,700. P85+ should be more, but I'm not sure how much more.

The two signature cars up on 28car.com are at HK$999,000 and HK$1,030,000.
 
Didn't someone on this thread put his car up for sale? Pretty sure he said he was taking a $30k depreciation hit. Send him a pm.

His listed price is pretty close to Tesla list price from what I can tell. I guess he might _take_ a US$30k hit, but is certainly not _asking_ for it. Comes down to the law of supply and demand. The final figure for depreciation hit will come from what people are willing to buy at.

I guess the starting point for depreciation hit discussions will come from whatever Tesla HK offers as a trade in price.
 
A currently configured P85 (single drive), fully loaded with all options except cold weather package is HK$969,700. US$30k off that should be around HK$735,700. P85+ should be more, but I'm not sure how much more.

The two signature cars up on 28car.com are at HK$999,000 and HK$1,030,000.

Good luck on the guys selling these cars. Way over priced now that the D is out.
I think no matter what car it is the 1st year of the car will loss 20% of the new car price.
 
Let's encourage Tesla to come up with retrofit of Autopilot

I have my Model S for a year. I know it is a brand new car and Tesla will add more features over time. I wish mine has AWD and autopilot. I am not angry; instead I am happy that Model S extended its lead, and it looks good for all Model S owners. My dear friends please get over with whatever emotional responses you have with the upgrade. Let face the reality and see what realistic retrofit we can have.

I think it is almost impossible to retrofit AWD, but adding the Autopilot is quite possible. Since Tesla’s productivity is currently limited by the supply of battery. They can charge a reasonable price to retrofit Autopilot and boost their profit margin. To me, Autopilot is an advanced technology and will open more possibilities.

AWD is nothing new. I live in the North east; RWD with winter tires served me better than my 4WD SUV.
 
I have my Model S for a year. I know it is a brand new car and Tesla will add more features over time. I wish mine has AWD and autopilot. I am not angry; instead I am happy that Model S extended its lead, and it looks good for all Model S owners. My dear friends please get over with whatever emotional responses you have with the upgrade. Let face the reality and see what realistic retrofit we can have.

I think it is almost impossible to retrofit AWD, but adding the Autopilot is quite possible. Since Tesla’s productivity is currently limited by the supply of battery. They can charge a reasonable price to retrofit Autopilot and boost their profit margin. To me, Autopilot is an advanced technology and will open more possibilities.

AWD is nothing new. I live in the North east; RWD with winter tires served me better than my 4WD SUV.

I would forget about the upgrade, it's too complicated if possible at all. With all the wiring needed, and new modified parts like bumper etc, you would have to have the car taken apart, modified and reassembled.

There are only two things that will or would have helped: A higher price for the improved product, to reflect the difference in price or some kind of compensation to those markets where 25,000 USD were loaned to Tesla Motors for free, for 2 to 3 years, interest free and with no guarantees.

Trade-up is also an option, where you order the "D", and by delivery, give back your "pre-D" at some agreed calculated trade-in price to Tesla Motors.