Thank you so much for a well written, logical explanation. If you ask me, your post should be made a sticky at the top of every discussion on these forums about Mobileye because it explains a lot about them that one may not know from casually reading this forum, and Mobileye vs Tesla is brought up often on these forums. Your explanations for why some auto mfrs don't use Mobileye made much more sense than "they want mediocrity".
Unfortunately it is just them lacking ambition and being incompetent.
I respect
@electronblue opinion and what he laid out in his post was great from an outside looking in. I wish i was just being pessimistic but its not the case. I'm looking from the inside looking out. I think
@S4WRXTTCS and
@diplomat33 should see this too.
You have Toyota who are still testing in test tracks and Mcity Test Facility. You have GM who didn't even have any internal autonomous development and were saved by acquiring Cruise Automation. You have Ford who were still testing in Mcity Test Facility and test tracks before being saved by taking ownership of Argo.AI. You have Toyota who in 2015 said they won't develop autonomous cars then changed their mind in 2017 and today still tests only in test track and in Mcity Test Facility.
Then you have Mercedes who has ZERO test cars currently, the couple test cars they had in california were averaging a disengagement every 1 miles which have now been pulled and are now only trying to deploy a-couple cars through BOSCH this year. Every year they show up at CES driving around in parking lots looking like damn fools!
Has Mercedes just given up?
Has Mercedes Just Given Up? The 2019 Edition…
The Frightening Low Ambition Level of German Carmakers in Regards to Autonomous Driving
You have to ask yourself, do they have any shame? Now they crawled to BMW to help them earlier in the year and with that deal BMW ended INEXt, it will no longer be Level 3. It will be a Level 2+ system. But can the blind lead the blind? (We will find out later, keep reading!)
Then you have VW who created Audi's AID after shutting down piloted driving which actually had a good highway system with autonomous lane change that they could have easily released as a Level 2+ system but is now dead, with code sitting somewhere in a repository collecting dust, which means there will be no more Level 3 or 4 highway system from them) are now just deploying like 5 cars this year for testing. This is pathetic.
I could go on and on and name Volvo, Jaguar, Hyundai, Honda and break them all down individually, but whats the point? They are all clueless.
This is in contrast to silicon valley companies with hundreds of cars deployed and millions/hundreds of thousands of miles in testing. Traditional automakers are clueless and will NEVER have internally developed self driving cars. This isn't pessimism, its just fact.
Now for direct comparison. Let's take a look at BMW. Remember that BMW and Mobileye have a close partnership, BMW uses Mobileye's EyeQ4 and will use their EyeQ5. It wasn't until a-couple weeks when a source told me that Mobileye said BMW is going their own route for driving policy and were adamant that BMW was doing the driving policy themselves and Mobileye is only providing closed sensing EyeQ5 and then an open programmable EyeQ5 . Which is what I have always suspected.
Currently right now they are are both using the production EyeQ4 and 8 camera system. But there's a slight difference because BMW is also using radars and Lidars in-addition. So BMW must be showcasing some awesome state of the art self driving right?
Well let's take a look.
Here is BMW trying to demo their Level 3 system. Watch closely as they edit out the driver hitting the turn signals to change lanes. As you can see their driving policy is so bad that it can't change lanes by itself as of June 2017. this is embarrassing.
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Here is another video as they demo their Level 4 system. Its L4 so this must be good. Oh wait its a test track demo.
Well third time's the charm right. So BMW invites dozens of journalists for test drives in 2018, so this must be good. Oh wait its another test drive around a closed off parking lot. WTF?
Fourth time, this must be it. BMW announces they are testing in china now, this must be the goods we have all been waiting on... wait is that a video of a car driving slowly struggling to do a turn after wheel jerking into a lane change beforehand on an completely empty road? WTF?
This is a joke right? No This is the traditional automakers, this is all they have to offer. Can the blind lead the blind? Ofcourse not.
As you can see the automakers are CLUELESS. They will never have a autonomous car unless its from a silicon valley company they either own or partner with and use their complete system. If it was Tesla vs traditional auto companies, Tesla would be 10 years ahead in self driving. Its not even close. But fortunately its not. Its Tesla versus Mobileye versus other silicon valley companies.
But here is Mobileye using the EXACT SAME EyeQ4 demonstrating state of the art aggressive and assertive driving. They have done hundreds of test rides to journalists and others. They give test rides to government leaders regularly aswell. As you can see, same perception chip, yet the gap in driving policy is like the gap between heaven and earth.
