Hotel Charging

[wraithnot]

How about this - who has ever seen a Nema plug for EV use (on purpose) at a full size hotel? The boutique hotel that someone paid to have them install it doesn't count. Now - how many J1772s are at hotels? So what is it 1000 to 10?

Here is a partial list of chain hotels with NEMA 14-50 plugs for EV use in areas I am familiar with:

Holiday Inn Express in Belmont, CA
Westin Mission Hills Resort, Rancho Mirage, CA
JW Marriott Desert Springs Resort, Palm Desert, CA
Hyatt Regency Indian Wells, CA
La Quinta Resort, La Quinta, CA
W Hotel, Scottsdale, AZ
Best Western, Payson, AZ
Westin La Paloma, Tucson, AZ
Aria, Las Vegas, NV

Now the ideal situation is places like the Oaks Hotel in Paso Robles that have both J1772s and 14-50s. But it's a heck of a lot cheaper to install a 14-50 than a J1772. The 14-50 I used at the Westin in Tucson is simply an outlet on the end of a 50-amp extension cord that they bring out if you call ahead and say you need to charge your car. It couldn't have cost them more than a few hundred dollars to install, but I got me back on the road after an overnight stay and I chose them over the Arizona hotel in Tucson with their bank of shiny J1772s because I didn't want to wait around for another six hours after breakfast for my car to finish charging.

 

[EarlyAdopter]

The Nema 14-50 was not meant for frequent plugging and unplugging. Any electrician would recommend the J1772 in a commercial installation.

While that's undoubtedly true for residential grade 240V outlets, ala Home Depot $10 variety, there are heavy duty industrial grade outlets that are designed to hold up to more frequent plugging and unplugging. The Hubble brand NEMA 14-50 has been mentioned around here many times. At $50 it's considerably more than a Home Depot one, but more appropriate for a hotel application. Hopefully a good electrician would know the difference.

I'd also point out that tens of thousands of RV parks around North America have had 50A and 30A outlets for decades that see frequent RV hookups and disconnects, so a NEMA 14-50 outlet can actually work fine for this.

 

[neroden]

While that's undoubtedly true for residential grade 240V outlets, ala Home Depot $10 variety, there are heavy duty industrial grade outlets that are designed to hold up to more frequent plugging and unplugging. The Hubble brand NEMA 14-50 has been mentioned around here many times. At $50 it's considerably more than a Home Depot one, but more appropriate for a hotel application. Hopefully a good electrician would know the difference.

I'd also point out that tens of thousands of RV parks around North America have had 50A and 30A outlets for decades that see frequent RV hookups and disconnects, so a NEMA 14-50 outlet can actually work fine for this.

The meaning of "frequent" may be in question here. :wink: My NEMA 14-50s seem to have been sourced for RV purposes, and as such I would expect them to be good for plugging and unplugging every day or every few days, as you would expect from RVs. Sounds fine for hotels. At home, I do so even less.

But for restaurants, you might expect 10 or more plugging/unplugging cycles per day, and that might call for a J1772.

 

[MikeC]

Just came across this, although it's from June 2012:

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Green Scene: Where to Recharge | Smartmeetings.com Event Planning Magazine 06 2012

Arizona

–Arizona Inn, 2200 E. Elm St., Tucson
–The Clarendon Hotel, 401 W. Clarendon Ave., Phoenix
–Westin Kierland Resort & Spa, 6902 E. Greenway, Scottsdale

California

–Anaheim Hilton and Towers, 777 W. Convention Way, Anaheim
–Best Western Villa Del Lago Inn, 2959 Speno Drive, Patterson
–Beverly Hilton Hotel, 9876 Wilshire Blvd., Beverly Hills
–Courtyard by Marriott - Cal Expo, 1782 Tribute Road, Sacramento
–Courtyard Marriott - Oxnard Ventura, 600 E. Esplanade Drive, Oxnard
–Creekside Inn, 3400 El Camino Real, Palo Alto
–Disneyland Hotel, 1150 W. Cerritos Ave., Anaheim
–Embassy Suites Los Angeles - International Airport/South, 1440 E. Imperial Ave., El Segundo
–Four Points by Sheraton, 1603 Powell St., Emeryville
–Hilton - Los Angeles International Airport, 5711 W. Century Blvd., Los Angeles
–Hilton San Francisco Financial District, 750 Kearny St., San Francisco
–Hotel Sofitel, 8555 Beverly Blvd., Los Angeles
–Hyatt Regency at Fisherman’s Wharf, 555 North Point St., San Francisco
–Hyatt Regency La Jolla, 3777 La Jolla Village Drive, La Jolla
–Hyatt Regency Long Beach, 200 S. Pine Ave., Long Beach
–Inn Marin Hotel, 250 Entrada Drive, Novato
–JW Marriott Desert Springs Resort & Spa, 74-855 Country Club Drive, Palm Desert
–Le Meridien Hotel, 465 S. La Cienega Blvd., Los Angeles
–Long Beach Hilton, 2 World Trade Center, Long Beach
–Manhattan Beach Marriott, 1400 Parkview Ave., Manhattan Beach
–Mark Hopkins InterContinental Hotel, 1 Nob Hill, San Francisco
–Marriott - Renaissance Esmeralda Indian Wells Resort & Spa, 44-400 Indian Wells Lane, Indian Wells
–Ontario Airport Hilton, 700 N. Haven Ave., Ontario
–Orange County Airport Hilton, 18800 MacArthur Blvd., Irvine
–Pala Casino Spa & Resort, 11154 Highway 76, Pala
–Palace Hotel, 2 New Montgomery St., San Francisco
–Parc 55 Hotel, 55 Cyril Magnin, San Francisco
–Pasadena Hilton, 150 S. Los Robles, Pasadena
–Radisson Hotel Westside, 6161 Centinela Ave., Culver City
–Renaissance Los Angeles Airport Hotel, 9620 Airport Blvd., Los Angeles
–San Francisco Airport Marriott Waterfront, 1800 Old Bayshore Hwy, Burlingame
–SLS Hotel - Beverly Hills, 465 S. La Cienega Blvd., Los Angeles
–Torrance Marriott South Bay, 3635 Fashion Way, Torrance
–Tuscali Mountain Inn, 1224 N. Topanga Canyon Blvd., Topanga
–Universal City Hilton, 333 Universal Terrace Parkway, Universal City
–US Grant Hotel, 326 Broadway, San Diego
–Valencia Hilton Garden, 27710 The Old Road, Valencia
–W Hotel - Silicon Valley, 8200 Gateway Blvd., Newark
–Westin Hotel, 675 El Camino Real, Palo Alto

Colorado

–Element Hotels - Denver Park Meadows, 9985 Park Meadows Drive, Lone Tree
–Hyatt Regency Denver, 650 15th St., Denver
–Marriott Fort Collins, 350 E. Horsetooth Road, Fort Collins
–Viceroy Snowmass, 26-1186 Wood Road, Aspen

Florida

–Best Western Yacht Harbor Inn, 150 Marina Plaza, Dunedin
–Best Western, 110 S. Orlando Ave., Winter Park
–Country Inn & Suites, 5802 Journey's End Way, Port Orange
–Don Cesar Hotel, 3400 Gulf Blvd., St Pete Beach
–Element Miami International Airport, 3525 NW 25th St., Miami
–Four Points by Sheraton, 5909 International Drive, Orlando
–Four Seasons Hotel, 1435 Brickell Ave., Miami
–Hampton Inn & Suites, 975 University Parkway, Sarasota
–Hilton Orlando, 6001 Destination Parkway, Orlando
–Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress, 1 Grand Cypress Blvd., Orlando
–Marriott Grand Vista, 5935 Avenida Vista, Orlando
–Renaissance Orlando at SeaWorld, 6677 Sea Harbor Drive, Orlando
–Residence Inn Orlando Lake Mary - Marriott, 825 Heathrow Park Lane, Lake Mary
–Rosen Inn, 6327 International Drive, Orlando
–Star Island Resort, 5000 Avenue of the Stars, Kissimmee
–Wingate by Wyndham, 5661 Windhover Drive, Orlando

Georgia

–Georgia Tech Hotel and Conference Center, 800 Spring St NW, Atlanta
–Hilton Garden Inn, 3045 Windy Hill Road, Atlanta

Hawaii

–Aulani, a Disney Resort & Spa, 92-1185 Aliinui Drive, Kapolei
–DoubleTree by Hilton - Alana Waikiki, 1956 Ala Moana Blvd., Honolulu
–Four Seasons Maui, 3900 Wailea Alanui Drive, Wailea
–Four Seasons Resort - Hualali, 72-100 Kaupulehu Drive, Kailua-Kona
–Halekulani Hotel, 2199 Kalia Road, Honolulu
–Hapuna Beach Prince Hotel, 62-100 Kaunaoa Drive, Kohala Coast
–Hawaii Prince Hotel, 100 Holomoana St., Honolulu
–Hilton Hawaiian Village Waikiki Beach Resort, 2003 Kalia Road, Honolulu
–Hilton Waikoloa Village, 69-425 Waikoloa Beach Drive, Waikoloa
–Ohana Waikiki East, 150 Kaiulani Ave., Honolulu
–Sheraton Kauai Resort - Poipu Beach, 2440 Hoonani Road, Koloa
–Sheraton Maui Resort & Spa, 2605 Kaanapali Parkway, Lahaina
–Sheraton Waikiki, 2255 Kalakaua Ave., Honolulu
–Waikiki Beach Marriott, 2552 Kalakaua Ave., Honolulu
–Waikiki Parc Hotel, 2233 Helumoa Road, Honolulu
–Wailea Beach Marriott Resort & Spa, 700 Wailea Alanui Drive, Wailea
–Westin Kaanapali Resort & Spa, 2365 Kaanapali Parkway, Lahaina

Iowa

–The Hotel at Kirkwood Center, 7725 City W54, Cedar Rapids

Massachusetts

–Charles Hotel - Harvard Square, 1 Bennett St., Cambridge
–Courtyard Hadley Amherst - Marriott, 423 Russell St., Hadley
–Element Hotels - Lexington, 727 Marrett Road, Lexington
–Grappone Conference Center - Courtyard by Marriott, 70 Constitution Ave., Concord
–Indigo Hotel, 399 Grove St., Newton
–Lenox Hotel, 61 Exeter St., Boston
–Residence Inn by Marriott - Concord, 91 Hall St., Concord
–Seaport Boston Hotel, 1 Seaport Lane, Boston

Maryland

–Charles County Hilton, 10385 O’Donnell Pl, Waldorf
–Element Hotels - Arundel Mills, 7522 Teague Road, Hanover
–Hilton Garden Inn Waldorf, 10385 O'Donnell Place, Waldorf

Michigan

–CityFlats Hotel - Holland BPW, 61 E.7th St., Holland
–Crystal Mountain Resort & Spa, 12500 Crystal Mountain Drive, Thompsonville
–DoubleTree by Hilton - Holland BPW, 650 E.24th St., Holland
–Hampton Inn and Suites, 3988 Baldwin Road, Auburn Hills
–Marriott Auburn Hills at Centerpoint, 3600 Centerpoint Parkway, Pontiac
–Radisson Kingsley Hotel, 39475 Woodward Ave., Bloomfield Hills
–Residence Inn - Holland BPW, 631 Southpointe Ridge Road, Holland
–Royal Park Hotel, 600 E. University Drive, Rochester

Mississippi

–Old Capital Inn, 226 N. State St., Jackson

Missouri

–Moonrise Hotel, 6177 Delmar Blvd., St. Louis

Nebraska

–Element Omaha Midtown Crossing, 3253 Dodge St., Omaha

New Jersey

–Element Hotels - Ewing, 1000 Sam Weinroth Road, Ewing

Nevada

–Element Hotels – Las Vegas, 10555 Discovery Drive, Las Vegas
–JW Marriott Las Vegas Resort & Spa, 221 N. Rampart Blvd., Las Vegas

New York

–Element New York Times Square West, 311 W. 39th St., New York
–Holiday Inn Express Albany Downtown, 300 Broadway, Albany

North Carolina

–Hilton Asheville – Baltimore Park, 42 Town Square Blvd., Asheville
–Hyatt Place Raleigh West, 710 Corporate Center Drive, Raleigh
–Raleigh Marriott City Center, 1 E. Lenoir St., Raleigh
–Residence Inn Charlotte Concord, 7601 Scott Padgett Parkway, Concord
–The Ritz-Carlton, Charlotte, 201 E. Trade St., Charlotte

Oregon

–Crowne Plaza - Portland Downtown, 1441 NE 2nd Ave., Portland
–DoubleTree by Hilton Portland, 1000 NE Multnomah St., Portland
–Hilton - Eugene, 66 E.6th Ave., Eugene
–Hotel Fifty, 50 SW Morrison St., Portland
–Hotel Modera, 515 SW Clay, Portland
–Hotel Monaco, 506 SW Washington St., Portland

South Carolina

–Courtyard by Marriott - Greenville Downtown, 50 W. Broad St., Greenville
–Hampton Inn, 15 Park Woodruff Drive, Greenville
–Hampton Inn & Suites, 171 River Pl, Greenville

Tennessee

–Commodore Hotel Linden, 114 E. Main St., Linden
–Country Inn and Suites, 1131 S. Jefferson Ave., Cookeville
–Country Inn, 140 Dixie Ave., Lebanon
–Crowne Plaza, 401 Summit Hill Drive, Knoxville
–DoubleTree by Hilton, 1850 Old Fort Parkway, Murfreesboro
–Doubletree Hotel Downtown Chattanooga, 407 Chestnut St., Chattanooga
–Embassy Suites - Murfreesboro, 1200 Conference Center Blvd., Murfreesboro
–Hampton Inn, 585 Fort Loudon Medical Center Drive, Lenoir City
–Hampton Inn, 7445 Sawyer Lane, Knoxville
–Hilton Garden Inn & Suites, 2631 Highwood Blvd., Smyrna
–Hilton Garden Inn Nashville-Franklin/Cool Springs, 9150 Carothers Parkway, Franklin
–Hilton Garden Inn, 2343 Shallowford Village Drive, Chattanooga
–Holiday Inn - Vanderbilt, 2613 West End Ave., Nashville
–Holiday Inn, 111 Hillvale Road, Clinton
–Hutton Hotel, 1808 West End Ave., Nashville
–LaQuinta Inn & Suites, 2537 Highwood Blvd., Smyrna
–Loews Vanderbilt Hotel, 2100 West End Ave., Nashville
–Marriott - Nashville Airport, 600 Marriott Drive, Nashville
–Mayors Mansion Inn, 801 Vine St., Chattanooga
–Residence Inn Chattanooga, 215 Chestnut St., Chattanooga
–Residence Inn, 2340 Center St., Chattanooga
–Sheraton Nashville Downtown, 623 Union St., Nashville
–The Chattanoogan Hotel, 1201 S. Broad St., Chattanooga
–The Inn at Christmas Place, 2470 Parkway, Pigeon Forge
–The Peabody Hotel Memphis, 149 Union Ave., Memphis

Texas

–Element Hotels - Dallas Fort Worth Airport North, 3550 I-635 E, Irving
–Element Hotels - Houston Vintage Park, 14555 Vintage Preserve Parkway, Houston
–Embassy Suites, 1515 Dallas St., Houston
–Hotel Lumen, 6101 Hillcrest Ave., Dallas
–Hotel Palomar - Dallas, 5300 E. Mockingbird Lane, Dallas
–Plano Parkway Courtyard By Marriott, 4901 W. Plano Parkway, Plano
–Wyndham Garden Hotel, 3401 S.IH 35, Austin

Virginia

–Hotel Floyd, 120 Wilson St., Floyd

Washington, DC

–Days Inn, 4400 Connecticut Ave. NW
–Holiday Inn - Capitol, 550 C St. SW
–The Ritz-Carlton Georgetown, 3100 South St. NW

Washington state

–Hilton Seattle Airport and Conference Center, 17620 International Blvd., Seattle
–Sleeping Lady Mountain Resort, 7375 Icicle Road, Leavenworth

Wisconsin

–Grand Geneva Resort and Spa, 7036 Grand Geneva Way, Lake Geneva

 

[dmunjal]

Any recommendations for hotels in Santa Monica that offer charging?

 

[jcaspar]

Over New Years we drove down from Sacramento and stayed at the Lowe's which has a free J1772. Great hotel but you have to valet the car. First valet was very familiar with Teslas and asked for the adapter. Second not so much. I highly recommend it.

P.S. The Tesla store is within walking distance and there is a service center there in a different location too.

 

[Owner]

I somehow doubt this list. I am driving across country and tried to find a good place to charge in Chattanooga. I started with hotels and I know I called at least one of these and they kind of laughed at me. I found two friendly Model S owners that I texted that would let me charge at their home. I ended up deciding to drive through Birmingham Alabama instead as there was some sights downtown to see within walking distance of a free Chargepoint with the backup plan being a Nissan dealer.

There really really needs to be a searchable way to do this. Plugshare does not work for this either, you just spend too much time trying to connect charge to hotel area.

Just came across this, although it's from June 2012:

–Hilton Garden Inn, 2343 Shallowford Village Drive, Chattanooga
–Mayors Mansion Inn, 801 Vine St., Chattanooga
–Residence Inn Chattanooga, 215 Chestnut St., Chattanooga
–Residence Inn, 2340 Center St., Chattanooga
–The Chattanoogan Hotel, 1201 S. Broad St., Chattanooga

 

[MikeC]

I somehow doubt this list. I am driving across country and tried to find a good place to charge in Chattanooga. I started with hotels and I know I called at least one of these and they kind of laughed at me. I found two friendly Model S owners that I texted that would let me charge at their home. I ended up deciding to drive through Birmingham Alabama instead as there was some sights downtown to see within walking distance of a free Chargepoint with the backup plan being a Nissan dealer.

There really really needs to be a searchable way to do this. Plugshare does not work for this either, you just spend too much time trying to connect charge to hotel area.

I don't understand why PlugShare doesn't work - I found Chattanooga on the map and quickly see charging available at Doubletree Hotel, Courtyard Chattanooga Downtown, Staybridge Suites Downtown, Chattanoogan Hotel, plenty of others...

 

[Owner]

because there is no way to sort by just hotel.

I don't understand why PlugShare doesn't work - I found Chattanooga on the map and quickly see charging available at Doubletree Hotel, Courtyard Chattanooga Downtown, Staybridge Suites Downtown, Chattanoogan Hotel, plenty of others...

 

[TexasEV]

because there is no way to sort by just hotel.

Yes there is when you access the Plugshare site from the Tesla browser.

 

[gavine]

We should include VRBO in the list of sites to recommend having a check box for EV charging. I own a vacation rental house in Florida (near Disney) and I plan on installing a NEMA 14-50 for guests. It would be great if they could find me on VRBO that way.

 

[Electroman]

Great idea.

 

[HHHH]

Would love to see this grow / update.

 

[sublimaze1]

Anyone know about the Holiday Inn Express near NRG? Availability? Down a lot? Working?

 

[bob_p]

As a last resort, I've called hotels and verified the status of the chargers before making trips. In some cases, if the hotel knows I'm coming and will be using the chargers, they'll put out traffic cones for the Tesla spaces - which has been pretty successful in keeping the spaces from being ICEd.

 

[scaesare]

I second bob_p's recommendation. I've had places do this for their standard outdoor receptacles too...

 

[KJD]

I have had good luck using the Tesla "Find Us" web page to find Hotels with charging. It seems like its faster to use that than plugshare.

 

[gavine]

I have had good luck using the Tesla "Find Us" web page to find Hotels with charging. It seems like its faster to use that than plugshare.

PlugShare allows you to filter out types of chargers so you can have it only show HPWC's if you want.

 

[rhumbliner]

This summer we used AirBnB frequently and asked them to include EV charging as a category. We also handed out quite a few Tesla Destination Charging brochures to those BnB's who expressd an interest.

 

[sdorn]

Do people actually travel cross country in a Leaf? That would be interesting.

As a Leaf owner, I would say no. I could barely get an hour outside Atlanta before I'd run out of juice in my Leaf. The furthest I drive it is to the airport (about 40 - 45 miles), and I still have to park offsite somewhere I can charge just to be able to get back home again.

I am looking forward to my Tesla coming in December (or whenever it arrives) so that I can actually drive my car somewhere other than back and forth to work and on short errands.